From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50134 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Greiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap usage model Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:56:21 -0600 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045324497 17284 80.91.224.249 (15 Feb 2003 15:54:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18k4eV-0004Ua-00 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:54:55 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18k4gE-0001IP-00; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:56:42 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:57:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12042 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:57:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 29561 invoked by alias); 15 Feb 2003 15:56:25 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29555 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2003 15:56:25 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 15 Feb 2003 15:56:25 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18k4rA-0007pT-00 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:08:00 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 77 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.12.206.173 Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1045325280 29965 216.12.206.173 (15 Feb 2003 16:08:00 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Feb 2003 16:08:00 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pw/Cf+OZVTJl6/CsUYwfOUVbcD8= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50134 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50134 David Abrahams writes: > Thanks for your reply, Kevin > > Kevin Greiner writes: > >> The agent has three faces and a format specifier to highlight articles >> that have NOT been downloaded. The faces appear by default while the >> format specifier must be added through customization. > > Hmm, I'll see if I can track that down. Could you elaborate on what > you mean by "appear by default", and where the customization for the > format specifier can be found? The variable gnus-summary-highlight controls how an article is highlighted in the summary. It contains a list of conditions and faces over which Gnus will iterate to the first true condition then select that face. If you don't want to use faces to highlight the undownloaded articles, you should customize gnus-summary-highlight to delete the three cons cells that refer to the gnus*undownloaded-face. > >> If you don't like using colors to indicate the undownloaded articles, >> you can customize gnus-summary-highlight. Just remove the three cons >> cells that refer to gnus*undownloaded-face. >> >> If you want to use +/- markers you can add %O to gnus-summary-line-format. > > I'll consider that as an alternative; it might be preferable. > >> You're the first to describe newly downloaded articles as being marked >> as "ancient". > > I think I was mis-describing the marks; the face used for ancient > articles looks a lot like the one used for un-downloaded articles on > NTEmacs when you don't use Courier New :( You can change the characters used by customizing gnus-undownloaded-mark and gnus-downloaded-mark. The +/- were selected for historical reasons. > >> Also that those articles are being highlighted. > > I don't think I ever mentioned the word "highlighted." > >> Try downloading the latest gnus-agent.el or set >> gnus-agent-mark-unread-after-downloaded to t. > > Well, now I'm seeing some other bizzarre behavior. My relevant > settings are now: > > gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil > gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups "INBOX" > gnus-agent-cache t ; see NOTE below > gnus-agent t > gnus-agent-consider-all-articles t > gnus-agent-expire-days 36500 > gnus-agent-mark-unread-after-downloaded t > > I was looking at my INBOX and I decided to see how many read messages > it was keeping, so I did `/ o 50' and the old messages appeared, but > suddenly all the messages which were marked already-read were now > marked undownloaded. Does anybody have an explanation for that? Nope. That's not something that I'm able to reproduce here. > NOTE: also, I'm not really sure what I'm getting from > gnus-agent-cache. All I can find in the documentation says "the agent > is also a big cache!" Can somebody explain what that means? It is an internal switch for temporarily disabling the agent. You should leave it set to t. Gnus will bind it to nil as appropriate times. Kevin