From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47800 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Danny Siu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Largely rewritten gnus-agent implementation. Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 02:45:26 +0800 Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <84bs4ggtnq.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038077216 15378 80.91.224.249 (23 Nov 2002 18:46:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18FfIt-0003zt-00 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:46:55 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18FfJy-0003fx-00; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 12:48:02 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 23 Nov 2002 12:48:49 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@[209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14274 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 12:48:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 16595 invoked by alias); 23 Nov 2002 18:46:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16590 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2002 18:46:57 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp-relay-2.adobe.com (192.150.11.2) by gnus.org with SMTP; 23 Nov 2002 18:46:57 -0000 Original-Received: from inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com (inner-relay-2 [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.adobe.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gANIhEkw001745 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:43:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (mailsj-dev.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.192]) by inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gANIkIL8003873 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:46:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from GIGI.corp.adobe.com ([130.248.170.2]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 v1 Jul 11 2001 16:32:57) with ESMTP id H61LH500.826 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:46:17 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Mailer: Oort Gnus v0.08 X-Location: Hong Kong X-Face: fHBvLrQQW(GRz#RNTAN(,')p8NGv}{6dMh\:?%*D\+8hgkiA_dub1@\,Y"r5'a8C(8e~cGG(WFTU\OlAqI[B?V7m'ZGkquvZ/d k~E"A"@WK;0mLF&\%W1kIC]O"z#/>YNUefE1%5/NUX;ml]@$nW;05Z9uZ/CqTz]A)+`1ROuF~||pG= k>Zi@hE- X-Emacs: 21.2.1 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <84bs4ggtnq.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2002 17:03:37 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47800 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47800 oops. forgot to mention that the new gnus-agent-downloaded-article-face (orange/yellow) is getting too much attention than the unread ones. it is okey for unplugged mode but when plugged, people probably don't care if the articles is downloaded or not. even when they do, a "+"/"-" on the summary line would be enough. i guess i can customize gnus-summary-highlight to use gnus-agent-downloaded-article-face only when unplugged. Kai Gro=DFjohann writes: Kai> Kevin Greiner did a really great job, I think, of improving Kai> gnus-agent and making it more efficient, too. I kind of forgot what Kai> exactly he has changed, but I can say the following: Kai> * The old .fetched files that I introduced are not needed anymore. Kai> * gnus-agent-consider-all-articles is supported properly. Kai> There is a sanity check in there which invokes (debug), so if you see Kai> that, please report it to Kevin and/or me, with some information Kai> about what you were seeing. After gathering the data (especially the Kai> contents of the backtrace buffer), it should be safe to just Kai> continue, the mess will be cleaned up automatically. Kai> The ChangeLog entries are from me, they are probably bogus to some Kai> degree. This can be sorted out later, though. Kai> Kevin is gone over the weekend and he suggested that I wait with Kai> committing this, but I'm too excited to wait! Kai> Ah, maybe I should mention some gotcha. With previous versions of Kai> the code (but not the one I'm checking in!) I saw that articles were Kai> marked as read when entering the group and they appeared to be gone. Kai> If this happens, don't panik. Instead, do C-x u from the group Kai> buffer (gnus-undo, to revert the marking as read), then use `J u' on Kai> the group to fetch it, then try to enter the group again. This Kai> worked reliably to make the articles reappear when I tried it. (The Kai> problem only happens in plugged mode.) I don't think that you will Kai> see this, but just in case... Kai> I think that's it! Please report your findings. Kai> kai -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis) --=20 Danny Siu