From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/37615 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Casadonte Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: nnimap - not quite there yet? Date: 08 Aug 2001 16:29:29 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035172996 14751 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:03:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 5315 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 20:29:53 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO terrapin.local.northbound-train.com) (216.231.57.205) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 20:29:53 -0000 Original-Received: from JCASADONTE (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by terrapin.local.northbound-train.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f78JVfr23724 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:31:43 -0400 Original-To: ding-list User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 69 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37615 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37615 Before I spend copious amounts of free-time trying to fix what I'm about to rant about, perhaps someone could tell me if there are already plans to fix these things. Or possibly fixes are already in Oort (though I downloaded it and grepped thru the Changelog quickly and didn't see anything specifically on these issues). My setup is a little odd, and perhaps I need to change it, but until I do, I have the following problems. My setup: I have multiple accounts on multiple IMAP servers. Specifically, 8 accounts on one IMAP server and one on another. I differentiate these accounts as being various virtual servers in my gnus-secondary-select-methods list. My problems: 1) Despite everything I've tried, mostly with levels, I cannot avoid having all accounts logged into at Gnus startup. I only want two or three accounts checked, and I'll check the others once every couple of days. Perhaps I need to define the virtual servers but make them inactive somehow, and then manually activate them from the server buffer? Aside from not knowing how to do that off-hand, it seems a bit of a PITA. 2) Again, despite attempts to change the behavior (mostly with levels) I cannot avoid having nnimap check every folder when I do a gnus-group-get-new-news. The folders don't /activate/, mind you, but I have to sit thru every one of them being checked. 3) For each virtual IMAP server, an imap process is launched and kept hanging around. With 9 virtual servers, that's just too much. It would be much better if there was one IMAP process that kept flipping back and forth. Yeah, there's a lag with login and all, but I'd rather have that then multiple connections hanging around doing nothing. One solution is to have a pool of IMAP connections, the limit to which could be configurable (1 for me, N for others). 4) As has been mentioned elsewhere in recent threads, nnimap (and all of Gnus for that matter) is not terribly fault tolerant. If a server connection goes down, the connection needs to be severed manually before it can be reconnected. Again, this is more of a general Gnus issue, I think, but nnimap seems a bit more stubborn then nntp. Some of these things are OK from an IMAP standpoint, but I'm trying to buy into the whole "mail is just strangely formatted news" idiom, and these are some of the things holding me back. Having said all of that, I'd be more then happy to jump in and try to fix some of them, being a firm believer in being a part of the solution (as well as the problem). Thanks for listening! -- Regards, joe Joe Casadonte jcasadonte@northbound-train.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Llama Fresh Farms => http://www.northbound-train.com Gay Media Resource List => http://www.northbound-train.com/gaymedia.html Perl for Win32 => http://www.northbound-train.com/perlwin32.html Emacs Stuff => http://www.northbound-train.com/emacs.html Music CD Trading => http://www.northbound-train.com/cdr.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Free, that's the message! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------