From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/48449 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David S Goldberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:01:36 -0500 Organization: I Yam What I Yam Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20021211092015.18546.h016.c001.wm@mail.xpediantsolutions.com.criticalpath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1041346913 19115 80.91.224.249 (31 Dec 2002 15:01:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18TNtv-0004xz-00 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:01:51 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18TNu4-0000J2-00; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:02:01 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:02:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17174 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:02:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 78339 invoked by alias); 31 Dec 2002 15:01:43 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 78334 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2002 15:01:43 -0000 Original-Received: from smtpproxy2.mitre.org (192.80.55.70) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 31 Dec 2002 15:01:43 -0000 Original-Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy2.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBVF1gV29850 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:01:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from MAILHUB2 (mailhub2.mitre.org [129.83.221.18]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBVF1ei04853 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:01:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from blackbird-2k.mitre.org (129.83.3.15) by mailhub2.mitre.org with SMTP id 595703; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:01:36 -0500 Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List X-Face: GUaHTH@nS>[7,ME@-gYZ4#Wl{z"99k@[[Y8AcP0x1paqu.,z9,XSV1WI>{q3f6^e5(zrit <4fV&VHhmE`uidRqtmG27;si9&r;#KSF~E#$%W8w(xdp)H4tW=\2XOk~3=@oGqqpj;m4xf Ow;y26396&,34@9#~4;@*S;E0cq"LM9N(us4P%F(Nxis'Vvfm9?KufH;:Q$dMa-QWGLR&K d0`LJZE8xb*>^yN>b]_NcU:E=Zn\1=#/(OS2 In-Reply-To: (kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com's message of "Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:34:47 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Informed Management (Windows [3]), i686-pc-cygwin) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:48449 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:48449 (let's try this again, now that it looks like the list is working again :-) >>>>> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:34:47 -0600, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com said: > David S Goldberg writes: >> So I was too hasty again. I still occasionally see the issue of new >> messages not being available. However, running >> (gnus-agent-regenerate-group) on the group in question (there's been >> two of them in the last few minutes since I last posted) seems to >> solve the problem. I'd be happy to try to edebug this if someone >> would point me at what functions I should be looking at. > If you have the 6.113 revision of gnus-agent.el and gnus-verbose > is set to 5, or higher, the *messages* buffer will tell you what > actions were performed to repair your group. That information may > help identify where you should start debugging. Unfortunately setting gnus-verbose to 10 didn't help. gnus-agent-regenerate-group didn't display anything about repairs. I edebugged that function and it looks like it regenerates the overview file as a matter of course rather than as a result of any error condition. The error conditions that would have generated statements from gnus-verbose don't trigger. That leads me to believe that the overview file is getting messed up. Having lived with it for three weeks now, I've observed certain features of the problem: 1: it only manifests itself in two groups (both nnimap), my inbox and the group that holds ding-list messages (ironic, isn't it? :-) 2: it only seems to manifest after one of two operations: Running expiry (I use total-expire with varying expiry-waits in about 10 groups; I only run expiry by hand a couple times a week), which I would expect to affect many more groups, or Moving an article or some number of articles out of the group, something that only ever happens from my inbox which suggests the ding group shouldn't be affected. So there's apparently something unique about those groups that's biting me, but for the life of me, I can't quite figure it out. Thanks, -- Dave Goldberg david.goldberg6@verizon.net