gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[David S Goldberg]

In some groups, regardless of back end (I have nntp, nnml, nnimap, all
of which are affected), pressing c, gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit
doesn't always do the catch up part.  In other groups it works fine.
Looking at show-message-log, in the groups in which it works, I see a
message "Setting marks in ...", in the others I don't.  I'm also not
positive it's always happening in the same groups.  I've looked
through group params etc and can't find any obvious differences.  If I
do the equivalent work of that function with M C Z n, then all works
as expected.  It almost seems like there's a race condition somewhere.
Any advice on how I could try to debug this?

Thanks,
-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Niklas Morberg]

David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> writes:

> In some groups, regardless of back end (I have nntp, nnml, nnimap, all
> of which are affected), pressing c, gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit
> doesn't always do the catch up part.  

FWIW, I see this too. I only use nnimap as backend.

Niklas

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Jinhyok Heo]

>>>>> "NM" == Niklas Morberg <niklas.morberg@axis.com> writes:

    NM> David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> writes:
    >  In some groups, regardless of back end (I have nntp, nnml,
    >  nnimap, all of which are affected), pressing c,
    >  gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit doesn't always do the catch up
    >  part.

    NM> FWIW, I see this too. I only use nnimap as backend.

I experienced same things these days. There must be something wrong now
in CVS. :)

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Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Simon Josefsson]

David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> writes:

> In some groups, regardless of back end (I have nntp, nnml, nnimap, all
> of which are affected), pressing c, gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit
> doesn't always do the catch up part.  

Is the group buffer updated or not?

I think I have seen this too, but only after `g' after a `c' -- the
catched up messages are back as unread.  This is nnimap.

> In other groups it works fine.  Looking at show-message-log, in the
> groups in which it works, I see a message "Setting marks in ...", in
> the others I don't.  I'm also not positive it's always happening in
> the same groups.  I've looked through group params etc and can't
> find any obvious differences.  If I do the equivalent work of that
> function with M C Z n, then all works as expected.  It almost seems
> like there's a race condition somewhere.  Any advice on how I could
> try to debug this?

If you can reproduce it easily, edebugging `c' is a starting point.

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Clemens Fischer]

Simon Josefsson wrote:

>  If you can reproduce it easily, edebugging `c' is a starting point.

how does one do that?  i mean, how do i start edebug'ging in some
situation?

clemens

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Simon Josefsson]

Clemens Fischer <ino@despammed.com> writes:

> Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
>>  If you can reproduce it easily, edebugging `c' is a starting point.
>
> how does one do that?  i mean, how do i start edebug'ging in some
> situation?

If you want to edebug what happens when you press `c', do C-h k q and
click on the hyperlink (Emacs only) in the documentation buffer that
leads you to the function definition, then press M-x edebug-defun RET
with point inside that function, return to Gnus and press `c'.  You
are placed in the lisp buffer when the function is invoked and can
single step using SPC and evaluate things using M-: or C-h v, or abort
execution with `q' and resume execution with `c' (or `g').

Maybe this should go into the manual somewhere?  Edebugging is very
useful to debug things and it is not very difficult even if you are
not familiar with Gnus internals.

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Niklas Morberg]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> If you want to edebug what happens when you press `c', do C-h k q and
> click on the hyperlink (Emacs only) in the documentation buffer that
> leads you to the function definition, then press M-x edebug-defun RET
> with point inside that function, return to Gnus and press `c'.  You
> are placed in the lisp buffer when the function is invoked and can
> single step using SPC and evaluate things using M-: or C-h v, or abort
> execution with `q' and resume execution with `c' (or `g').

Good summary, thank you for this.

> Maybe this should go into the manual somewhere?

I certainly think so. Until then, I will keep your message
ticked so I have the information at hand when I need it.

Niklas

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[Simon Josefsson]

Niklas Morberg <niklas.morberg@axis.com> writes:

>> Maybe this should go into the manual somewhere?
>
> I certainly think so.

I added something like it to the troubleshooting section:

   If you want to debug your problem further before reporting, possibly
in order to solve the problem yourself and send a patch, you can use
edebug.  Debugging lisp code is documented in the Elisp manual (*note
Debugging Lisp Programs: (elisp)Debugging.).  To get you started with
edebug, consider if you discover some weird behaviour when pressing
`c', the first step is to do `C-h k c' and click on the hyperlink
(Emacs only) in the documentation buffer that leads you to the function
definition, then press `M-x edebug-defun RET' with point inside that
function, return to Gnus and press `c' to invoke the code.  You will be
placed in the lisp buffer and can single step using `SPC' and evaluate
expressions using `M-:' or inspect variables using `C-h v', abort
execution with `q', resume execution with `c' or `g'.

Re: gnus-summary-catchup-and-exit not setting marks

[David S Goldberg]

I did a CVS update yesterday morning (about 9AM EDT, September 23) and
have not seen this problem since, including after another update
earlier this morning.
-- 
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net