From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/29425 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Guido Van Hoecke Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: nnimap refuses to delete mail Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:19:29 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035166097 2709 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:08:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0337FD051E for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:28:31 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAB03045; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:28:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 07 Mar 2000 06:28:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17110 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:27:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from btm4r4.alcatel.be (btm4r4.alcatel.be [195.207.101.110]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E191D051E for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:27:45 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from btm16s.se.bel.alcatel.be (root@btm16s.se.bel.alcatel.be [138.203.33.210]) by btm4r4.alcatel.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04629 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:27:38 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from BTM4BZ.se.bel.alcatel.be (btm4bz [138.203.34.132]) by btm16s.se.bel.alcatel.be (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8+SUN) with ESMTP id NAA22348; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:27:33 +0100 (MET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29425 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29425 The nnimap under Gnus v5.8.3 never removes any of my mail messages. It pretends to do so, does never complain, but when I revisit my Inbox (or any other imap folder from which I have removed messages, either via 'G Del' or via 'B m some-other-imap-folder') all messages that were supposed to be removed are still there. I have (expiry-wait . immediate) for all folders, for some folders I even use (auto-expire . t). This used to work during the nnimap-beta phase. I know that imap-servers sometimes are picky about deleting messages. This usually happens if more than one imap session is active for the same userid. And sometimes one gets stuck with invisible backgound sessions (e.g. after closing Netscape Messenger, but not closing Communicator, some mail checking background task may continue to access the server). I have carefully avoided such contention situations. But still nnimap happily colorizes my summary lines as being deleted (in case of the 'G Del' command) or puts the 'E' mark in my auto-expire groups, gives me a message 'Setting marks in INBOX...' or whatever folder, but, the messages never disappear. This is not a general problem at the server: Netscape, Outlook Express and Pine (http://www.washington.edu/pine/) have no problems to delete messages. Pine never has any problem with deleting imap messages (if the folder is not in use by another imap process)? I now read my mail with Gnus, and I have to expunge it with Pine or Netscape or Outlook. And, as said before, Pine is the most effective. It pains me a bit that such a simple straightforward (no blame meant) program is better at handling messages. Does anybody have an idea why this does no longer work?