From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55279 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Greiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: New colors for undownloaded articles: tweak behavior a bit? Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:29:24 -0600 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87wu8tltuc.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071801000 10129 80.91.224.253 (19 Dec 2003 02:30:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3819@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Dec 19 03:29:57 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AXAOq-0003Mk-00 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:29:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AXAOR-0006nW-00; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:29:31 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AXAOM-0006nR-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:29:26 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BB73A004F for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:29:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AXAOK-00066K-00 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:29:24 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.93.102.6 Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1071800964 23455 63.93.102.6 (19 Dec 2003 02:29:24 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:29:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TybWzlMtHywOZKxN8+CA0JbPPbE= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55279 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55279 Kai Grossjohann writes: > By default, the agent is enabled. That's good, even if I don't really > use it when Emacs is running on the same host as the imap server. So > I didn't turn it off. > > But now it turns out that I can't tell the difference between normal > articles and ticked articles anymore from the color. > > I wonder if it would make sense to lower the priority of the > "downloaded/undownloaded" distinction a bit in favor of showing other > attributes, if Gnus is plugged? I appreciate that the > downloaded/undownloaded distinction is important when one is offline > (can't read the undownloaded ones), but is it important when one is > online? > > Hm. It is important for those who quickly want to see which articles > to mark for downloading. Hm. But is it possible to do it another > way? Exactly. The color scheme is a waste once you're offline as you can't fetch the undownloaded articles. The entire point is to let online users know what content will be available should they go offline. As for the precidence, I tried a number of precidence settings and this was the only one that made sense. What would be nice is if we could rewrite the gnus-summary-hightlight form to select face attributes rather than faces. That way multiple attributes would combine to select a distinct face. Now that the agent is being used for online caching, the color scheme is probably too intrusive (at least for those users). That's why you can disable it. There is more information in the manual under Agent Visuals should you be interested. Kevin