From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28003 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Toby Speight Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: using procmail to split directly into nnimap groups Date: 09 Dec 1999 18:00:24 +0000 Organization: Citrix Systems (Cambridge) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164927 27534 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:48:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18906 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:00:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB23579; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:00:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:00:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26651 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:00:45 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com (root@gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com [195.153.38.114]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18888 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:00:20 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sh.ctxuk.citrix.com (sh.ctxuk.citrix.com [10.30.224.4]) by gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com (8.8.7/BSCF-1.7) with ESMTP id SAA03448 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:00:19 GMT Original-Received: from hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com (hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com [10.30.224.26]) by sh.ctxuk.citrix.com (8.8.7/BSCF-1.7) with SMTP id SAA08700 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:00:18 GMT Original-Received: from 10.30.224.23 by hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 18:00:18 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Original-Received: from lanber.cam.citrix.com (LANBER [10.70.1.235]) by hwmail01.ctxuk.citrix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id Y2VZTWKR; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:00:18 -0000 Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List Original-Lines: 27 In-Reply-To: Matt McClure's message of "09 Dec 1999 10:58:28 -0500" X-Author-Info: Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28003 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28003 Matt> Matt McClure 0> In , Matt wrote: Matt> Gnus has traditionally behaved very badly when procmail split Matt> directly into mail groups. Does this same restriction exist Matt> with nnimap? No - nnimap is a server-based system. Gnus knows that the server will assign numbers to the articles, and doesn't expect to do it itself. Similarly, procmail knows the server will do all the work, and doesn't do anything itself, other than tell the server into which group each article goes. The problems with splitting into file-based groups arise because both Gnus and procmail think they own the housekeeping tasks, and so stand on each other's feet. With IMAP, they both know they're not in charge, and they ask the server for advice. I'm using an IMAP server, but not with procmail. I use its own splitting system[1], and the only problem I see is very minor - Gnus's estimate of how many articles are in my INBOX is often a long way out, because splitting introduces holes in the numbering. [1] I intend to move to nnml-split-fancy when I can, so I don't have to log in on the server to update my rules - and for the improved functionality.