From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62436 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [nnimap] Deleted messages don't go away Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:55:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1143651405 3445 80.91.229.2 (29 Mar 2006 16:56:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10963@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 29 18:56:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FOdxp-0008WK-8g for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:56:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FOdxj-0006ik-00; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:56:03 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FOdxE-0006ie-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:55:32 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FOdxB-0001yv-99 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:55:32 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.4.61]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FOdxA-000645-00 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:55:28 +0200 Original-Received: from 209-150-60-201.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO i9300.boost-consulting.com) ([209.150.60.201]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Mar 2006 11:55:24 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.03,144,1141621200"; d="scan'208"; a="189790378:sNHT2216652272" Original-Received: from dave by i9300.boost-consulting.com with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id IWWF0B-00034W-PL; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:55:23 -0800 Original-To: gdt@work.lexort.com In-Reply-To: (gdt@work.lexort.com's message of "Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:23:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62436 Archived-At: gdt@work.lexort.com writes: > David Abrahams writes: > >> gdt@work.lexort.com writes: >> >>> David Abrahams writes: >>> >>>> I keep seeing some messages in my NNIMAP groups even long after I've >>>> removed them using a different mail client. Is there some way to get >>>> Gnus to forget what it thinks it knows so the record can be accurate >>>> again? >>> >>> I had this problem too, and turned off the agent. Then gnus seems to >>> no longer remember the stale messages. >> >> Yeah, but once you turn it back on, they come back, right? I can't >> even get them to go away by removing the group from the agent. > > I didn't try this, but I'd expect them to come back. Since the agent > seems broken with nnimap (if messages are deleted by other imap > clients), I just disabled the agent for the entire nnimap server. But of course I want offline access to my IMAP messages. And (of course) my IMAP server is slow so having a local cache is valuable. > It would be nice to have the agent work, and be able to use cached > copies of messages and at mail offline. It seems that some other uses > of the agent want articles only in the agent (but not on the server) > to appear. So perhaps this should be a per-group or per-server > property, defaulting to "sync with server" for nnimap. That would sure be nice. I wish I could do it myself, but I've given up trying to modify the Gnus system (or even really understand it -- I'm sometimes amazed I can use it at all, but it's still the most productive client I can find). -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com