Server loses `agent' status

Server loses `agent' status

[Harry Putnam]

I'm noticing a problem where one server.  A `foreign' server,
news.gmane.org does not keep the `agentized' status between full
restarts.

Open the server buffer with `^', the run `J a' on gmane server. The
word `agent' appears to the right of server line.  Close server
buffer then reopen server buffer.... `agent' flag is still there.

But if I stop gnus and then emacs.  Restart, and gmane server shows
up with no `agent' flag.

Re: Server loses `agent' status

[Kevin Greiner]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> I'm noticing a problem where one server.  A `foreign' server,
> news.gmane.org does not keep the `agentized' status between full
> restarts.
>
> Open the server buffer with `^', the run `J a' on gmane server. The
> word `agent' appears to the right of server line.  Close server
> buffer then reopen server buffer.... `agent' flag is still there.
>
> But if I stop gnus and then emacs.  Restart, and gmane server shows
> up with no `agent' flag.

Open agent/lib/servers.  Does it contain a list of server names or a
list of server methods?  If the answer is methods, upgrade to CVS.  If
it is a list of strings, I'd like to hear more about how you
configured this foreign server.

Kevin

Re: Server loses `agent' status

[Harry Putnam]

Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> I'm noticing a problem where one server.  A `foreign' server,
>> news.gmane.org does not keep the `agentized' status between full
>> restarts.
>>
>> Open the server buffer with `^', the run `J a' on gmane server. The
>> word `agent' appears to the right of server line.  Close server
>> buffer then reopen server buffer.... `agent' flag is still there.
>>
>> But if I stop gnus and then emacs.  Restart, and gmane server shows
>> up with no `agent' flag.
>
> Open agent/lib/servers.  Does it contain a list of server names or a
> list of server methods?  If the answer is methods, upgrade to CVS.  If
> it is a list of strings, I'd like to hear more about how you
> configured this foreign server.

Well it has one server name looks like this:

  cat servers
  ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native")

And the current session is a restart so the agent flag is absent on
gmane in server buffer.

  Server Buffer:
     {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
     {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened)
     {nndir:/home/reader/Mail/prinb} (opened)
     {nndir:/anex/mail.bk} (opened)
     {nnml:} (opened)
     {nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened) (agent)

However as you see, the agent flag is present on the only other nntp
server enews.newsguy.com and it isn't mentioned at all in News/**/server
directory.

Newsguy is there from `select method' in gnus:
   (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "enews.newsguy.com"))

Gmane was selectd using the B (foreign server) command in Group
buffer long ago.  However marking it as agentized in server buffer
will not stick thru a restart.

I'm going to cvs update now.  Will report back if things still seem screwy

Re: Server loses `agent' status

[Harry Putnam]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

>> Open agent/lib/servers.  Does it contain a list of server names or a
>> list of server methods?  If the answer is methods, upgrade to CVS.  If
>> it is a list of strings, I'd like to hear more about how you
>> configured this foreign server.
>
> Well it has one server name looks like this:
>
>   cat servers
>   ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native")
>
> And the current session is a restart so the agent flag is absent on
> gmane in server buffer.
>
>   Server Buffer:
>      {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
>      {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened)
>      {nndir:/home/reader/Mail/prinb} (opened)
>      {nndir:/anex/mail.bk} (opened)
>      {nnml:} (opened)
>      {nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened) (agent)
>
> However as you see, the agent flag is present on the only other nntp
> server enews.newsguy.com and it isn't mentioned at all in News/**/server
> directory.
>
> Newsguy is there from `select method' in gnus:
>    (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "enews.newsguy.com"))
>
> Gmane was selectd using the B (foreign server) command in Group
> buffer long ago.  However marking it as agentized in server buffer
> will not stick thru a restart.
>
> I'm going to cvs update now.  Will report back if things still seem screwy

After cvs update... now running the latest as of yesterday.
I see the same phenomena.   Setting the agentized mark (J a) on a
foreign server ( selected by pressing `B' on group buffer) and
`agentt' appears on the right of server line but after a restart it
is gone.

  Server buffer:
     {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
     {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened)
     {nndir:/home/reader/Mail/prinb} (opened)
     {nndir:/anex/mail.bk} (opened)
     {nnml:} (opened)
     {nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened) (agent)


    cat News/agent/lib/servers
   ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native")

Re: Server loses `agent' status

[Xavier Maillard]

<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> disait récemment que :

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>>> Open agent/lib/servers.  Does it contain a list of server names or a
>>> list of server methods?  If the answer is methods, upgrade to CVS.  If
>>> it is a list of strings, I'd like to hear more about how you
>>> configured this foreign server.
>>
>> Well it has one server name looks like this:
>>
>>   cat servers
>>   ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native")
>>
>> And the current session is a restart so the agent flag is absent on
>> gmane in server buffer.
>>
>>   Server Buffer:
>>      {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
>>      {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened)
>>      {nndir:/home/reader/Mail/prinb} (opened)
>>      {nndir:/anex/mail.bk} (opened)
>>      {nnml:} (opened)
>>      {nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened) (agent)
>>
>> However as you see, the agent flag is present on the only other nntp
>> server enews.newsguy.com and it isn't mentioned at all in News/**/server
>> directory.
>>
>> Newsguy is there from `select method' in gnus:
>>    (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "enews.newsguy.com"))
>>
>> Gmane was selectd using the B (foreign server) command in Group
>> buffer long ago.  However marking it as agentized in server buffer
>> will not stick thru a restart.
>>
>> I'm going to cvs update now.  Will report back if things still seem screwy
>
> After cvs update... now running the latest as of yesterday.
> I see the same phenomena.   Setting the agentized mark (J a) on a
> foreign server ( selected by pressing `B' on group buffer) and
> `agentt' appears on the right of server line but after a restart it
> is gone.
>
>   Server buffer:
>      {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
>      {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened)
>      {nndir:/home/reader/Mail/prinb} (opened)
>      {nndir:/anex/mail.bk} (opened)
>      {nnml:} (opened)
>      {nntp:enews.newsguy.com} (opened) (agent)
>
>     cat News/agent/lib/servers
>    ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native")

I am using a yesterday copy of Gnus cvs and all is working quite well
here. What's more nntp are *by default* agentized so I don't really
understand why for you it doesn't react that way.

Can you post your configuration or report a bug using the dedicated
function so we probably could see what is wrong ?

zeDek
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email: zedek@gnu-rox.org

Re: Server loses `agent' status

[Harry Putnam]

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:

> I am using a yesterday copy of Gnus cvs and all is working quite well
> here. What's more nntp are *by default* agentized so I don't really
> understand why for you it doesn't react that way.
>
> Can you post your configuration or report a bug using the dedicated
> function so we probably could see what is wrong ?

I will post a recap but currently one of the developers is working on
this and I'm trying to assist.

One point though. Although the `agent' flag does not stay thru a
restart, agent behavior does continue.  That is.  If I press `g', the
groups on that server that are in my `true' category are downloaded
in agent fashion.

FIXED: Server loses `agent' status

[Kevin Greiner]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
>
>> I am using a yesterday copy of Gnus cvs and all is working quite well
>> here. What's more nntp are *by default* agentized so I don't really
>> understand why for you it doesn't react that way.
>>

The patch to fix this problem is now available via CVS.

Kevin

Re: FIXED: Server loses `agent' status

[Harry Putnam]

Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
>>
>>> I am using a yesterday copy of Gnus cvs and all is working quite well
>>> here. What's more nntp are *by default* agentized so I don't really
>>> understand why for you it doesn't react that way.
>>>
>
> The patch to fix this problem is now available via CVS.

Thanks, I'm on the road and don't have the bandwidth to try it right
now but will next week.

Re: Server loses `agent' status

[Xavier Maillard]

<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> disait récemment que :

> I'm noticing a problem where one server.  A `foreign' server,
> news.gmane.org does not keep the `agentized' status between full
> restarts.

Huh ? I have also faced this problem a few time ago but I can't
remember how did I fix it ;)

> Open the server buffer with `^', the run `J a' on gmane server. The
> word `agent' appears to the right of server line.  Close server
> buffer then reopen server buffer.... `agent' flag is still there.
>
> But if I stop gnus and then emacs.  Restart, and gmane server shows
> up with no `agent' flag.

Exactly the same behavior I have seen. Now it works perfectly but dunno
why and how. 

I will try to look at my setup and see why it *does* work now.

zeDek
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