From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15595 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: amu@mit.edu (Aaron M. Ucko) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus v5.6.24 is released Date: 13 Jul 1998 21:06:47 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199807112117.OAA10778@dzur.kerch.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154599 22961 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:56:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21496 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:16:18 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05615 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAT22448; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 19:46:39 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:06:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25581 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.28]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11286 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from MINT-SQUARE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA11038; Mon, 13 Jul 98 21:07:03 EDT Original-Received: by mint-square.MIT.EDU (8.8.7/4.7) id VAA04990; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Stainless Steel Rat In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "13 Jul 1998 19:01:33 -0400" Original-Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.24/Emacs 19.34 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15595 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15595 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > Which is fine if you happen to have a relatively new Intel or Alpha box. > But this ignores Suns, HPs, IBMs (RS/6000 and PC/RT), and numerous others, > of which there are many more in the world than Linux or *BSD. Um, pretty much all the Sun keyboards I've seen have been Type 4 or 5 keyboards hence had both meta (diamond) and alt keys. OTOH, IBM and SGI keyboards all seem to use the PC101 layout, and HP and "classic Digital" keyboards have their own layouts with only one shifting modifier besides shift and control, so perhaps you have a point. On the gripping hand, CDE is ugly and to be avoided anyway. ;-) -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (finger amu@monk.mit.edu)