From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53465 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Greiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent issues in 5.10.2 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:46:52 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87he5nzjnb.fsf@goldfish.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1058309227 17542 80.91.224.249 (15 Jul 2003 22:47:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2010@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 16 00:47:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cYZb-0004YK-00 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:47:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19cYa5-0004l3-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:47:33 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19cYZy-0004kx-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 15930 invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2003 22:47:07 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15925 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 22:47:06 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 22:47:06 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19cYmX-0001HL-00 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:00:25 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 39 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-66-134-21-51.hstqtx02.covad.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1058310025 4918 66.134.21.51 (15 Jul 2003 23:00:25 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jul 2003 23:00:25 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g30YMF89S7c37nj5nT5eO00K8gk= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53465 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53465 NAGY Andras writes: > It appears that the list of agentized servers is stored in > News/agent/lib/servers as well as in the variable > gnus-agent-covered-methods in .newsrc.eld. Why this redundancy? The agentized servers were first stored in lib/servers then they were added to .newsrc.eld but lib/servers took precidence. I was starting to work on merging the two when 5.10 was released so the changes have been put on hold (They're not even finished right now). > Also, the actual parameters for the agentized servers > (e.g. nntp-port-number et al), which are set in .gnus, are also stored > in the variable gnus-agent-covered-methods in .newsrc.eld (and > sometimes in lib/servers too). Again, why this redundancy? That was a mistake. Again, the code to fix this is in the works. > If something is redundant, one day it will get inconsistent. It > happened to me that after changing a parameter (irrelevant to the > server's identity) of a server in .gnus, it resulted in a new entry > for the same server with the new configuration in lib/servers, in > addition to the previous configuration. Right. I've run into it myself. It's quite annoying. > What is the `outgoing counterpart' of the `:plugged t' setting in mail > source specifiers? I.e. how can Gnus be configured to send mail even > if in unplugged state (my MTA does queuing, so Gnus doesn't have to) ? There isn't one. Several work-arounds exist. I believe that the following is the simpliest. Simply put it at the end of your gnus start-up file. (defun gnus-agent-send-mail () (funcall gnus-agent-send-mail-function) ) Kevin