From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67655 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:22:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87wsg2tvcn.fsf@xemacs.org> <20081021062510.GB22593@tomas> <87prlutizh.fsf@xemacs.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224584677 14906 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2008 10:24:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tomas@tuxteam.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, miles@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 21 12:25:35 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KsEQe-0006XK-S5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:25:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38378 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsEPZ-0001BX-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KsEPU-0001AT-5b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:24:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KsEPS-0001A8-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:24:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46178 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsEPS-0001A4-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout4.012.net.il ([84.95.2.10]:56736) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KsEPP-0000HY-P6; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:24:16 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.98.197]) by i_mtaout4.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K93008DA3K9KUK2@i_mtaout4.012.net.il>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:24:10 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87prlutizh.fsf@xemacs.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104742 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67655 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: Miles Bader , > rms@gnu.org, > ding@gnus.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, > tomas@tuxteam.de, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:06:42 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > From: Miles Bader > > > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:21:25 +0900 > > > Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, > > > Stefan Monnier , ding@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org > > > > > > Perhaps something like `canonicalize-coding-system-name' would be good. > > > > That implies that the return value would be a string, not the coding > > system itself. I suggest we return the coding system (or nil), not > > just the name. > > The coding system *is* just a name Not in GNU Emacs; see the doc string of `define-coding-system' (in Emacs 23) or `make-coding-system' (in Emacs 22). > > Some time back in this thread I suggested `coding-system-for-charset' > > (since the argument strings will be charsets). > > Actually, if I recall the thread correctly, normally they won't. > They'll be *MIME* charsets, which correspond to Emacs *coding > systems*. "utf8" is not a MIME charset, AFAIK, and it certainly doesn't currently correspond to any coding system in Emacs.