From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67630 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224512459 18973 80.91.229.12 (20 Oct 2008 14:20:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16080@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 20 16:21:55 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KrqOQ-0005Oz-2s for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:45:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KrqMh-00039t-ED; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:43:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KrqMf-00039h-TR for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KrqMc-0001E4-CZ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KrqMj-0007ks-00 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:43:53 +0200 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.98.197]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K9100MB449DPJC0@i-mtaout7.012.net.il> for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:44:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67630 gmane.emacs.devel:104666 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:03 -0400 > Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Depends on the particular case you're thinking of. I already proposed > > mm-charset-synonym-alist for the case of charsets in MIME messages. > > > That would work only when the character set is specified in a MIME > > message, and only for Gnus. It would be much better to fix the > > same problem in a general way that applies for all the places > > in Emacs that you can specify a coding system. Why fix just > > part of the problem? > > Yes, we should probably provide at least a function that we could call > `get-coding-system' and which would take a string and return > a coding-systm or nil. I suggest not to use `get' in the name, since that tends to hint we are working with some property list or alist, similarly to `get-language-info'. Maybe `coding-system-for-charset'?