From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47574 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: NTEmacs, smptpmail-queue-mail, and line-endings Date: 06 Nov 2002 14:17:44 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036611330 28779 80.91.224.249 (6 Nov 2002 19:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 189Vx9-0007Sq-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:35:03 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 189Vv5-00026L-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:32:55 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:33:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11304 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:33:20 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 261 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2002 19:32:28 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 255 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 19:32:26 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 19:32:26 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 189W1k-0001e8-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:39:48 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding,gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 146-115-123-43.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1036611587 6284 146.115.123.43 (6 Nov 2002 19:39:47 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Nov 2002 19:39:47 GMT Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard , Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47574 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47574 David Abrahams writes: > Hi, > > I'm not sure I'm posting this to the right places, but I hope someone > here can help. > > I'm using NTEmacs 21.2 with a very recent smtpmail.el (from GNU emacs > CVS, I think), and I'm setting smtpmail-queue-mail so that I don't > have to wait for the server each time I finish composing a message. > > In order to get queueing to work, I had to set: > > (setq smtpmail-mail-address "dave@boost-consulting.com") > > Which seems wrong because it isn't documented, but without it my > outgoing messages were being rejected as having no sender. > > However, I've received a number of complaints from people I'm > corresponding with. For example, Microsoft Outlook users (I'm sure > some of you will say they deserve what they get, but I need to > correspond with them anyway) all say: > > Not sure what's up w/ your mailer. All email from you has no > subject, and the cc: line appears in the body. On top of that, > it's double spaced. > > Other people simply never see my emails; presumably they're being > silently rejected by their server somewhere. > > And some Linux users have problems, too (see bottom of this > message). The email looks fine to me on its way out; my best guess is > that the DOS '\r\n' line ending convention is messing things up. The > files stored in ~/Mail/queued-mail, waiting to go out. do indeed have > DOS line-endings. > > Any clues about how to repair this would be much-appreciated! One further piece of information: if I manually go into the queued-mail/ folder and change the coding system in the messages to 'undecided-unix, people seem to get the right thing. I could probably hack my smtpmail.el to do that for me at some point in the chain, but I am a bit clueless about coding systems, so I'd have no idea if that's really the right thing to do. In particular, it seems like it could mess up embedded MIME attachments. -- David Abrahams dave@boost-consulting.com * http://www.boost-consulting.com