From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17399 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message.el and drafts Date: 24 Sep 1998 16:17:37 -700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156106 728 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:21:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23590 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAF08644; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:51:08 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27386 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:18:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from CAraptorUU.geoworks.com (CAraptorUU.geoworks.com [208.232.87.36]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23544 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from maelstrom.geoworks.com by CAraptorUU.geoworks.com via smtpd (for sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) with SMTP; 24 Sep 1998 23:17:49 UT Original-Received: from quark.geoworks.com (quark.geoworks.com [198.211.201.100]) by maelstrom.geoworks.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12030 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ultraman.geoworks.com ([198.211.201.179]) by quark.geoworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07004; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "24 Sep 1998 18:40:17 +0200" Original-Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070032 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.32) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17399 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17399 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Matt Armstrong writes: > > > Smartening up message.el (message-set-auto-save-file-name) to set > > the *mail* buffer's buffer-file-name to something like > > message-autosave-directory/draft-[some-unique-number]. > > This won't (in general) be sufficient. I may (for instance) decide > that nndraft will have to do extra things when associating message > buffers to draft files, especially in conjunction with MIME things. Makes sense. I've come up with this, which starts up gnus but immediately shoves it in the background and runs message-mail: (defun my-message-mail () (interactive) (require 'gnus-util) (unless (gnus-alive-p) (save-window-excursion (let ((gnus-inhibit-startup-message t)) (gnus 2)))) (message-mail)) (global-set-key "\C-xm" 'my-message-mail) Problem is, there is no way to start Gnus without having it fetch my mail -- an annoying delay when I want to send mail. I'd like to have it start at level 2 (the usual way I run it) but not fetch anything. How about me changing the dont-connect arg to be: nil - normal startup t - don't connect to the primary server 'never - don't connect to _any_ server regardless of start level Then I can run (gnus 2 'never). In fact, often I start gnus up to reference old mail. I'd probably choose to make (gnus 2 'never) the default way I launch gnus -- I can always do a 'g' after it loads. -- matta