From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56964 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus 5.10 and Emacs' CVS Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:58:14 -0500 Organization: ~ Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <871xmxti9w.fsf@telia.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081540193 5671 80.91.224.253 (9 Apr 2004 19:49:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 19:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5504@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Apr 09 21:49:41 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BC20T-0004t6-00 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:49:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BC202-00031B-00; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:49:14 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BC1Em-0002xM-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BC1El-0004lp-KX for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:00:23 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8D33A0060 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:00:22 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BC1Ei-00010n-00 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:00:20 +0200 Original-Received: from 216.62.199.3 ([216.62.199.3]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:00:20 +0200 Original-Received: from pete_lee by 216.62.199.3 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:00:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.62.199.3 X-Face: "%FAKctgv3W?!Hs_=v:E>`B"a*,tA?s]>auK)kg%?~yY6XNrv|yM7cA_F[9}ZqMcy `g7R?.Sn+J1pu8b!Sk6f=E User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aD/fmayPVnh8gexs9ODP3rmrLjc= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56964 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56964 >>>> Jesper Harder writes: >> Frank Schmitt writes: >> Why should Gnus' CVS Head be crippled just because RMS wants >> it? Jesper> Because nobody wants to maintain two different versions of Jesper> Gnus, or repeat all of the work of stripping the crypto Jesper> code every time a Gnus release is imported to Emacs. One obvious solution is to pull it out of Emacs all together. Maintain it as a seperate package only. Emacs is bloated as it is. Those who don't use Gnus currently get it whether they want it or not. I know it wouldn't bother me, as I use CVS anyway. Anyone smart enough to use Gnus shouldn't have any problems downloading a tarball and installing it.