From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22155 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Yaitskov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Date: 30 Mar 1999 22:37:49 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <99Mar30.101000est.13914-3@gateway.intersys.com> <87r9q64a1m.fsf@x2-150.mtl.Generation.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160126 26651 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:28:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29171 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:38:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAB22047; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:37:05 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:37:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17659 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:37:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com [24.2.9.66]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29116 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:37:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from LUCY ([24.65.93.139]) by mail.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990331033632.LEBY17502.mail.rdc1.on.home.com@LUCY> for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:36:32 -0800 Original-To: Ding In-Reply-To: Greg Stark's message of "30 Mar 1999 22:23:17 -0500" Original-Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/21.2(beta13) (Demeter) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22155 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22155 Greg Stark wrote: > Stainless Steel Rat writes: > > > * Dmitry Yaitskov on Tue, 30 Mar 1999 > > > > | Where (rfc#) does it say so? Note, the pop3 server (or rather, 3 > > | different pop servers that I tested) did not become confused. It was > > | the local mail client (gnus) that got confused. > > > > Then the bug is in Gnus. QED. > > Indeed SSR, if POP requires you not to mangle the message and you intend to > put it in a mbox format you're going to have to pick one standard or the other > to violate. Picking the mbox format to violate means generating a broken mbox, > so that's right out. Basically if you want to use an mbox spool to transport > the mail then you have a design limitation that precludes you following the > POP spec in certain circumstances. > > I know it turns out your code wasn't involved, I think it was. It was pop3-movemail that built an invalid mbox from perfectly valid *separate* messages retrieved via pop3 one by one. > but it sounds like you seem > convinced you should be trusting on network data to preserve the integrity of > Gnus's spool. If that's the case you're asking for all kidns of trouble. > Security principles dictate that under no condition should data from the > network be trusted such that invalid data would break the client. > > greg > > > -- Cheers, -Dima.