From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/3974 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus5, procmail, and reading mail lists. Date: 14 Nov 1995 23:37:13 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science Sender: joseph@cis.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035144787 28129 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:13:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@ifi.uio.no Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from moonbase_v.moonvalley.com (moonbase_v.moonvalley.com [204.212.162.1]) by miranova.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA19541 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:33:23 -0800 Original-Received: from biggulp.callamer.com (root@biggulp.callamer.com [199.74.141.2]) by moonbase_v.moonvalley.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA11731 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:22:48 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by biggulp.callamer.com (8.6.12/8.6.9-callamer-rdw080995) with ESMTP id VAA12438 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:28:10 -0800 Original-Received: from news.cis.ohio-state.edu (news.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.50]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:37:22 +0100 Original-Received: from coccyx.cis.ohio-state.edu (coccyx.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.14.3]) by news.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA09541; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:37:16 -0500 Original-Received: (joseph@localhost) by coccyx.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id XAA18676; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:37:15 -0500 Original-To: hildjj@fuentez.com In-Reply-To: Joe Hildebrand's message of 14 Nov 1995 09:27:51 -0700 Original-Lines: 34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:3974 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:3974 Joe Hildebrand writes: >> "Steven" == Steven L Baur writes: Steven> I just reread the thread, and saw again the comments about a Steven> procmail NOV hack, which I assume add-active-nov is referring Steven> to. > Yes, it was a hack. No, even I don't use it anymore. The only place > it was probably documented was on my web server. I think it can also be accessed off Lars' page somewhere, too. > If anyone is still using add-active-nov, could you please contact me? > I'm interested in getting everyone cut over to the Gnus way. This seems too strong to me. Sure, supporting completely safe external mail delivery from within ding is extremely hard to do. But "completely safe" here relates to getting things to work correctly if you're delivering directly to groups that you might do a "B m" or "B c" into. If you're willing to forgo that luxury, it's possible to achieve safe external delivery. I switched over to using .spool files 2-3 weeks back, primarily to see if startup split time wouldn't be a significant factor. I now find it a pain to have to wait through all the "splitting" messages before I can read mail. YMMV, of course. As for biffing externally delivered mail, I have a Tk-from-Perl5 script that will biff such messages properly. (It's modeled on XMultibiff and offers seperate header and message previews.) I've been thinking about this stuff and discussed some approaches with Lars (unsuccessfully :<). I think I'll post a complete list of pros/cons/methods on this topic separately. -Sudish