From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/4834 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: (gnus-inews-domain-name); insertion of Sender: Date: 20 Jan 1996 06:08:14 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science Message-ID: References: <199601181337.OAA28961@ssv4.dina.kvl.dk> <199601190834.JAA01129@ssv4.dina.kvl.dk> <199601191014.LAA01179@ssv4.dina.kvl.dk> <199601191422.PAA01295@ssv4.dina.kvl.dk> <5568e82h73.fsf@galil.austnsc.tandem.com> <199601192038.VAA01777@ssv4.dina.kvl.dk> <55zqbj24mr.fsf@galil.austnsc.tandem.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035145526 31008 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:25:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from moonbase_v.moonvalley.com (root@moonbase_v.moonvalley.com [204.212.162.1]) by miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11019 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:23:22 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by moonbase_v.moonvalley.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA01535 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:11:45 -0800 Original-Received: from news.cis.ohio-state.edu (news.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.8.50]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 12:08:22 +0100 Original-Received: from honsu.cis.ohio-state.edu (honsu.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.138.13]) by news.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id GAA06192 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:08:19 -0500 Original-Received: (joseph@localhost) by honsu.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) id GAA20412; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:08:17 -0500 Original-To: The Ding List X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta), GNU Emacs 19.30.2 In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of 19 Jan 1996 20:46:21 -0500 Original-Lines: 37 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:4834 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:4834 Stainless Steel Rat writes: >>>>>> "SD" == Sten Drescher writes: SD> So Son-of-RFC 1036 is discarding its RFC 822 heritage on this SD> issue? > No, it superceeds RFC 822, rendering parts of it obsolete. This is the 822 applies to mail messages, 1036 to news messages. Neither one can obsolete the other. However, 1036 does refer back to 822 on several issues. > previous versions of themselves. Look at the MIME and PEM RFCs sometime. I don't know about PEM, but MIME certainly doesn't supercede RFC822; for one thing, MIME deals with the format of the message body while 822 concerns itself with headers. SD> This is a problem for Gnus, since it needs to adhere to both SD> standards. > No, it needs to adhere to the most recently defined standard. If it can > also adhere to the earlier standards for backwards compatability then > great, but in this case it is not required. I agree with Sten. Gnus must follow 822 for mail and 1036 for news. Also, I agree with the original poster in this thread. It's silly to use a user-supplied string for Sender:, especially when Gnus isn't checking this address in the manner that So1036 specifies. Why not simply use (system-name), throwing in the towel if this returns gibberish. If misconfiguration at the concerned site renders system-name useless, Gnus has no way of providing a Sender: header that satisfies So1036 (short of emulating sendmail)--so why insert one? -Sudish