Free email services ...

Free email services ...

[Stefan Waldherr]

Hi,

it seems that it is extremely popular these days to use one of the free email
services (hotmail, etc.). Is there any way to read/send mail on one of these
services with gnus? Well, I simply don't want to use their crappy web inter-
face.

Thanx.
Stefan.
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[Andy Eskilsson]

/ Stefan Waldherr <swa@cs.cmu.edu> wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| it seems that it is extremely popular these days to use one of the free email
| services (hotmail, etc.). Is there any way to read/send mail on one of these
| services with gnus? Well, I simply don't want to use their crappy web inter-
| face.

I am hacking a library i a language called python for fetching/posting
mails from hotmail, it is based on a program running fetching mail and
putting it into nnfolders (made by me of course :-).

I am considering writing some kind of backend or such thingy for gnus
in lisp (hey who are you.. and whats that funny looking shirt with
long arms.. OUMPF), but have some major design issues left :-)

I wonder if you my fellow gnus-ers could help me.. 

It would be easy to write a simple nntp-server program that gnus
talked to and fetched mail from, but the main problem is how to post,
and delete messages??

Any ideas.. or should I go over and implement something in lisp.. I
would preferr to get the emails 'home' to the local disk.. How do I
tell message.el to send the message to some other place than the
normal smtp server or whatever.. 

Ahh well, any ideas are welcome.. 

	/andy

Re: Hotmail back/front/middle-end was Re: Free email services ...

[Kai Grossjohann]

>>>>> Andy Eskilsson <andy.eskilsson@telelogic.se> writes:

  > It would be easy to write a simple nntp-server program that gnus
  > talked to and fetched mail from, but the main problem is how to
  > post, and delete messages??

The file nndb.el contains the beginnings of a `writable nntp'
implementation -- it is derived from nntp.el but provides a few
additional commands for writing and deleting messages.  I'm afraid it
pretends to work but really doesn't, but maybe you can get some ideas
from it.  As you can see, defining a new Gnus backend isn't all that
complicated.  (It's only my lack of Lisp programming and my lack of
understanding the Gnus backend stuff and the nnoo stuff that prevents
this from really working.)

kai
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Re: Hotmail back/front/middle-end was Re: Free email services ...

[David Blacka]

>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@charly.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

>>>>> Andy Eskilsson <andy.eskilsson@telelogic.se> writes:
 >> It would be easy to write a simple nntp-server program that gnus
 >> talked to and fetched mail from, but the main problem is how to
 >> post, and delete messages??

 Kai> The file nndb.el contains the beginnings of a `writable nntp'
 Kai> implementation -- it is derived from nntp.el but provides a few
 Kai> additional commands for writing and deleting messages.  I'm
 Kai> afraid it pretends to work but really doesn't, but maybe you can
 Kai> get some ideas from it.  As you can see, defining a new Gnus
 Kai> backend isn't all that complicated.  (It's only my lack of Lisp
 Kai> programming and my lack of understanding the Gnus backend stuff
 Kai> and the nnoo stuff that prevents this from really working.)

Actually, nndb.el does work if you remove the
(nntp-possibly-change-servers) commands.  My guess is the nntp.el is
not really fully implemented for inheritance, though.  There seem to
be a number of somewhat cricitcal functions and variables that are
defun and defvar'ed instead of defoo and devoo'ed.

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