From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29194 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2020 23:05:05 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Sep 2020 23:05:05 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kLDoB-00FyxB-KB; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 18:04:19 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kLDo7-00FyvI-8W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 18:04:15 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kLDo5-001Lhu-Ee for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 23 Sep 2020 18:04:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=HE2QcJm542KlZFwKcAqURJmfuUkNrLKVn11DK+f4GjI=; b=Wy/bCo08kAaAFFEZ6fsyCtzq74 u3dEnAJ2Z5GLYPurDVAY9AEILEF6tcUo9nWsSOXKrSxwLpICyrlA0KMPEBu2xaxG0G8Tv4dOJY9HU Oe+/Vdb+loPDPqMih5QVQV+uLFIC/kVYJ77cdEDmDYDp52ckgWNoyQU0TAR5thVK7yTI=; Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214] helo=ciao.gmane.io) by quimby with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLDnx-0006eK-SA for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 01:04:09 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kLDnx-00019p-20 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 Sep 2020 01:04:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Harry Subject: Unpleasant catch 22 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:03:59 -0400 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 List-ID: Precedence: bulk I get an error when starting gnus and after it begins mail/news scan ... it ends in Authorization Rejected. So apparently a password not working for on reason or another. However there is no indication of which password. So normally I would start gnus and look in the server buffer. However starting gnus results in news scan and the same Authorization message... Gnus never finishes its startup. OK, I thought, I'll start` gnus-no-server' but I'll be darned if that doesn't go to a news scan too. ( Why would there be a scan if there are no servers?) (And by the way gnus is running with `debug on error' and `debug on quit' engaged) At least the ending during `gnus-no-server' startup is not about Authorization but appearantly, after a very lengthy (more than 15 minutes) I finally hit Ctrl-g. No Backtrace is generated it simiply says `quit' I guess a couple of things are raised with this behavior but can someone at least tell me how to get a gnus interface without any news/mail scanning so I can do other chks?