Re: problem with thread scoring

[Toby Speight <Toby.Speight@streapadair.freeserve.co.uk>]

Gerald> Gerald Preissler <URL:mailto:Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de>

0> In article <87k8qkjiui.fsf@nathan.localnet>, Gerald wrote:

Gerald> I want to lower the score for (sub-)threads that I´m not
                                                         ^^^
Did you know you have an acute accent instead of apostrophe there?

Gerald> interested in.  I try to use adaptive scoring to lower the
Gerald> score for any reply to an article that I have marked with
Gerald> gnus-del-mark or that has gnus-low- score-mark.
Gerald>
Gerald> The score list I came up with is :
Gerald>
Gerald> (defvar gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
Gerald>        '(;;...
Gerald>          (gnus-del-mark (thread -1))
Gerald>          (gnus-low-score-mark (thread -1))))
Gerald>
Gerald> Unfortunatly, this does not work as expected. When I score
Gerald> down some threads and try to leave the group, gnus complains
Gerald> with:
Gerald> Symbol´s function definition is void: thread
              ^ Did Emacs really use the accent there?

You want to use 'followup instead of 'thread.  For example, 

((gnus-unread-mark)
 (gnus-ticked-mark
  (from 4)
  (subject 4)
  (followup 10))
 (gnus-dormant-mark
  (from 5)
  (subject 2)
  (followup 25))
 (gnus-del-mark
  (from -3)
  (subject -3))
 (gnus-read-mark
  (from 3)
  (subject 3))
 (gnus-expirable-mark)
 (gnus-killed-mark
  (from -1)
  (subject -3)
  (followup -10))
 (gnus-kill-file-mark)
 (gnus-catchup-mark
  (subject -1)))

(I tend to kill threads I'm not interested in).


Gerald> From reading the info file I learned that using adaptive
Gerald> scoring together with auto-expiry is bad because adaptive
Gerald> scoring is messed up by the expirable mark set by auto
Gerald> expiry.  Does this mean that I can use the two together if
Gerald> I *don´t* score on gnus-expirable-mark as in the example
Gerald> above?

It means that if you mark items as read with 'd' (i.e. they have the
'r' mark) then they won't be expirable.  And if they're expirable,
then they have the 'E' mark, which is not in itself very useful for
scoring.

I recommend you look at total-expire if you want to use adaptive
scoring on your mail.  That's what I use, and I'm quite happy with it
(I have a couple of groups with nnmail-expiry-wait set to 'never in
the group parameters; my spam group has a very short expiry (any
false positives I move into the appropriate real group); other groups
expire after a few weeks).  Of course, articles marked as unread
(ticked, dormant and unseen articles) don't get expired, even by
total-expire.