From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24790 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Toby Speight Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: problem with thread scoring Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:40:19 +0100 Organization: Citrix Systems (Cambridge) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87k8qkjiui.fsf@nathan.localnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162296 10664 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:04:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01422 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAB20259; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:43:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07275 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:41:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from ironside.ansa.co.uk (ironside.ansa.co.uk [192.5.254.44]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01407 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lanber.cam.citrix.com (LANBER.ansa.co.uk [10.70.1.235]) by ironside.ansa.co.uk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA402 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:41:12 +0100 Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List Original-Lines: 74 In-Reply-To: Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de's message of "25 Aug 1999 11:43:49 +0200" X-Author-Info: Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24790 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24790 Gerald> Gerald Preissler 0> In article <87k8qkjiui.fsf@nathan.localnet>, Gerald wrote: Gerald> I want to lower the score for (sub-)threads that I´m not ^^^ Did you know you have an acute accent instead of apostrophe there? Gerald> interested in. I try to use adaptive scoring to lower the Gerald> score for any reply to an article that I have marked with Gerald> gnus-del-mark or that has gnus-low- score-mark. Gerald> Gerald> The score list I came up with is : Gerald> Gerald> (defvar gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist Gerald> '(;;... Gerald> (gnus-del-mark (thread -1)) Gerald> (gnus-low-score-mark (thread -1)))) Gerald> Gerald> Unfortunatly, this does not work as expected. When I score Gerald> down some threads and try to leave the group, gnus complains Gerald> with: Gerald> Symbol´s function definition is void: thread ^ Did Emacs really use the accent there? You want to use 'followup instead of 'thread. For example, ((gnus-unread-mark) (gnus-ticked-mark (from 4) (subject 4) (followup 10)) (gnus-dormant-mark (from 5) (subject 2) (followup 25)) (gnus-del-mark (from -3) (subject -3)) (gnus-read-mark (from 3) (subject 3)) (gnus-expirable-mark) (gnus-killed-mark (from -1) (subject -3) (followup -10)) (gnus-kill-file-mark) (gnus-catchup-mark (subject -1))) (I tend to kill threads I'm not interested in). Gerald> From reading the info file I learned that using adaptive Gerald> scoring together with auto-expiry is bad because adaptive Gerald> scoring is messed up by the expirable mark set by auto Gerald> expiry. Does this mean that I can use the two together if Gerald> I *don´t* score on gnus-expirable-mark as in the example Gerald> above? It means that if you mark items as read with 'd' (i.e. they have the 'r' mark) then they won't be expirable. And if they're expirable, then they have the 'E' mark, which is not in itself very useful for scoring. I recommend you look at total-expire if you want to use adaptive scoring on your mail. That's what I use, and I'm quite happy with it (I have a couple of groups with nnmail-expiry-wait set to 'never in the group parameters; my spam group has a very short expiry (any false positives I move into the appropriate real group); other groups expire after a few weeks). Of course, articles marked as unread (ticked, dormant and unseen articles) don't get expired, even by total-expire.