* problem with thread scoring
@ 1999-08-25 9:43 Gerald.Preissler
1999-08-25 10:40 ` Toby Speight
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Gerald.Preissler @ 1999-08-25 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi folks!
What I want to do :
I want to lower the score for (sub-)threads that I´m no interested in.
I try to use adaptive scoring to lower the score for any reply to an
article that I have marked with gnus-del-mark or that has gnus-low-
score-mark.
The score list I came up with is :
(defvar gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
'((gnus-unread-mark)
(gnus-ticked-mark)
(gnus-dormant-mark (from 5))
(gnus-del-mark (thread -1))
(gnus-read-mark)
(gnus-expirable-mark)
(gnus-killed-mark)
(gnus-kill-file-mark)
(gnus-ancient-mark)
(gnus-low-score-mark (thread -1))
(gnus-catchup-mark) ))
Unfortunatly, this does not work as expected. When I score down some
threads and try to leave the group, gnus complains with :
Symbol´s function definition is void: thread
My questions are :
- what am I doing wrong?
- is this a sensible way to achive what I want in the first place?
And an other thing :
>From reading the info file I learned that using adaptive scoring together
with auto-expiry is bad because adaptive scoring is messed up by the
expirable mark set by auto expiry. Does this mean that I can use the two
together if I *don´t* score on gnus-expirable-mark as in the example
above?
thanks
Jerry
--
Just being paranoid does not mean they´re *not* out to get you...
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* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 9:43 problem with thread scoring Gerald.Preissler @ 1999-08-25 10:40 ` Toby Speight 1999-08-25 10:57 ` Shaun Lipscombe 1999-08-25 18:36 ` Gerald.Preissler 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Toby Speight @ 1999-08-25 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw) Gerald> Gerald Preissler <URL:mailto:Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de> 0> In article <87k8qkjiui.fsf@nathan.localnet>, Gerald wrote: Gerald> I want to lower the score for (sub-)threads that I´m not ^^^ Did you know you have an acute accent instead of apostrophe there? Gerald> interested in. I try to use adaptive scoring to lower the Gerald> score for any reply to an article that I have marked with Gerald> gnus-del-mark or that has gnus-low- score-mark. Gerald> Gerald> The score list I came up with is : Gerald> Gerald> (defvar gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist Gerald> '(;;... Gerald> (gnus-del-mark (thread -1)) Gerald> (gnus-low-score-mark (thread -1)))) Gerald> Gerald> Unfortunatly, this does not work as expected. When I score Gerald> down some threads and try to leave the group, gnus complains Gerald> with: Gerald> Symbol´s function definition is void: thread ^ Did Emacs really use the accent there? You want to use 'followup instead of 'thread. For example, ((gnus-unread-mark) (gnus-ticked-mark (from 4) (subject 4) (followup 10)) (gnus-dormant-mark (from 5) (subject 2) (followup 25)) (gnus-del-mark (from -3) (subject -3)) (gnus-read-mark (from 3) (subject 3)) (gnus-expirable-mark) (gnus-killed-mark (from -1) (subject -3) (followup -10)) (gnus-kill-file-mark) (gnus-catchup-mark (subject -1))) (I tend to kill threads I'm not interested in). Gerald> From reading the info file I learned that using adaptive Gerald> scoring together with auto-expiry is bad because adaptive Gerald> scoring is messed up by the expirable mark set by auto Gerald> expiry. Does this mean that I can use the two together if Gerald> I *don´t* score on gnus-expirable-mark as in the example Gerald> above? It means that if you mark items as read with 'd' (i.e. they have the 'r' mark) then they won't be expirable. And if they're expirable, then they have the 'E' mark, which is not in itself very useful for scoring. I recommend you look at total-expire if you want to use adaptive scoring on your mail. That's what I use, and I'm quite happy with it (I have a couple of groups with nnmail-expiry-wait set to 'never in the group parameters; my spam group has a very short expiry (any false positives I move into the appropriate real group); other groups expire after a few weeks). Of course, articles marked as unread (ticked, dormant and unseen articles) don't get expired, even by total-expire. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 10:40 ` Toby Speight @ 1999-08-25 10:57 ` Shaun Lipscombe 1999-08-25 11:15 ` Alexandre Oliva ` (2 more replies) 1999-08-25 18:36 ` Gerald.Preissler 1 sibling, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Shaun Lipscombe @ 1999-08-25 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw) What is the purpose of dormant? I have used it before and in the manual it says that its too mark followups as interesting. Is this just used then, to increase a sub-thread score... or does it have another purpose? Thanks, Shaun -- (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ shaun.lipscombe@gasops.co.uk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 10:57 ` Shaun Lipscombe @ 1999-08-25 11:15 ` Alexandre Oliva 1999-08-25 11:20 ` Toby Speight 1999-08-25 12:14 ` Kai Großjohann 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Alexandre Oliva @ 1999-08-25 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding On Aug 25, 1999, Shaun Lipscombe <shaun.lipscombe@gasops.co.uk> wrote: > What is the purpose of dormant? I have used it before and in the > manual it says that its too mark followups as interesting. I use it to mark patches I submit, so that they're not expired, and they pop up whenever there's a reply about them, suggesting improvements, approving or rejecting them. It's also useful to track bug reports, so that, when some other maintainer replies, you can automagically have the original bug report presented to you, so you can choose to add some information or simply delete it. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~oliva IC-Unicamp, Bra[sz]il oliva@{dcc.unicamp.br,guarana.{org,com}} aoliva@{acm.org,computer.org} oliva@{gnu.org,kaffe.org,{egcs,sourceware}.cygnus.com,samba.org} ** I may forward mail about projects to mailing lists; please use them ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 10:57 ` Shaun Lipscombe 1999-08-25 11:15 ` Alexandre Oliva @ 1999-08-25 11:20 ` Toby Speight 1999-08-25 12:14 ` Kai Großjohann 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Toby Speight @ 1999-08-25 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw) Shaun> Shaun Lipscombe <URL:mailto:shaun.lipscombe@gasops.co.uk> 0> In article <wkbtbwcem2.fsf@gasops.co.uk>, Shaun wrote: Shaun> What is the purpose of dormant? I have used it before and in Shaun> the manual it says that its too mark followups as interesting. Shaun> Is this just used then, to increase a sub-thread score... or Shaun> does it have another purpose? It's to keep an article around, but not show it unless there's a followup visible. For instance, if someone posts a large bit of code related to something I'm working on, I might mark it dormant so that if someone follows-up responding with a highly-trimmed quote I will have the original available for context. Actually, I just use it for almost anything I want to go into the cache without distracting me every time I look in the group. In itself, dormant doesn't affect scoring - though like any mark, you can use it to do adaptive scoring. (I do, because if I've made something dormant, it's because it's a topic I'd like to track). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 10:57 ` Shaun Lipscombe 1999-08-25 11:15 ` Alexandre Oliva 1999-08-25 11:20 ` Toby Speight @ 1999-08-25 12:14 ` Kai Großjohann 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 1999-08-25 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Shaun Lipscombe <shaun.lipscombe@gasops.co.uk> writes: > What is the purpose of dormant? It's for people who switched to total-expire from auto-expire and are now missing a way to mark articles such that they will be kept but not shown by default. Dormant articles are kept on disk but not shown by default. This is very similar to the behavior of read messages when total-expire is off. Thus, it can be used as a substitute when total-expire is on. kai -- I like BOTH kinds of music. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 10:40 ` Toby Speight 1999-08-25 10:57 ` Shaun Lipscombe @ 1999-08-25 18:36 ` Gerald.Preissler 1999-08-30 14:23 ` Robert Bihlmeyer 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Gerald.Preissler @ 1999-08-25 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Toby Speight <Toby.Speight@streapadair.freeserve.co.uk> writes: > Gerald> I want to lower the score for (sub-)threads that I´m not > ^^^ > Did you know you have an acute accent instead of apostrophe there? > errr - no. I just typed shift-# and never thought about it :-) > > You want to use 'followup instead of 'thread. For example, > Thanks for the hint, I will try it. I'm still confused why `thread' gives the error message on my system, though. I read through the info node again and still can't figure out why. > I recommend you look at total-expire if you want to use adaptive > scoring on your mail. That's what I use, and I'm quite happy with it I'll look into this. thanks for your reply Jerry -- Just being paranoid does not mean they´re *not* out to get you... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with thread scoring 1999-08-25 18:36 ` Gerald.Preissler @ 1999-08-30 14:23 ` Robert Bihlmeyer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Robert Bihlmeyer @ 1999-08-30 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, >>>>> On 25 Aug 1999 20:36:47 +0200 >>>>> Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de said: Gerald> Toby Speight <Toby.Speight@streapadair.freeserve.co.uk> Gerald> writes: >> Did you know you have an acute accent instead of apostrophe >> there? >> Gerald> errr - no. I just typed shift-# and never thought about it Gerald> :-) Shift-# should generate an apostrophe/single quote "'", not an acute accent in normal german configuration. Robbe -- Robert Bihlmeyer reads: Deutsch, English, MIME, Latin-1, NO SPAM! <robbe@orcus.priv.at> <http://stud2.tuwien.ac.at/~e9426626/sig.html> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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