* How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default?
@ 2016-01-06 22:37 Dave Abrahams
2016-01-06 22:59 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Dave Abrahams @ 2016-01-06 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
When viewing an article such as this one in Gnus
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/2367>,
I really want to see the plain text version of the article by default,
but it very consistently comes through looking like this:
1. ( ) text/plain (*) text/html
<Body of message>
I have all the following customizations:
'(gnus-buttonized-mime-types
(quote
("multipart/alternative")))
'(mm-discouraged-alternatives
(quote
("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")))
'(mm-inline-large-images
(quote resize))
'(mm-inline-text-html-with-images t)
What am I missing?
TIA,
Dave
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2016-01-06 22:37 How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default? Dave Abrahams
@ 2016-01-06 22:59 ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-07 9:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-06 23:04 ` Bjørn Mork
2016-01-08 12:00 ` Teemu Likonen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2016-01-06 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Dave writes:
> When viewing an article such as this one in Gnus
> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/2367>,
> I really want to see the plain text version of the article by default,
> but it very consistently comes through looking like this:
>
> 1. ( ) text/plain (*) text/html
I have this:
;; Don't display html inline
(setq
mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched")
mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
Best regards,
Adam
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2016-01-06 22:59 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2016-01-07 9:51 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2016-01-07 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adam Sjøgren; +Cc: ding
asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
> Dave writes:
>
>> When viewing an article such as this one in Gnus
>> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/2367>,
>> I really want to see the plain text version of the article by default,
>> but it very consistently comes through looking like this:
>>
>> 1. ( ) text/plain (*) text/html
>
> I have this:
>
> ;; Don't display html inline
> (setq
> mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched")
> mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
I also have
(setq mm-inline-override-types '("application/octet-stream" "text/html"))
Andreas.
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* Re: How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default?
2016-01-06 22:37 How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default? Dave Abrahams
2016-01-06 22:59 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2016-01-06 23:04 ` Bjørn Mork
2016-01-08 7:18 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-08 12:00 ` Teemu Likonen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bjørn Mork @ 2016-01-06 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Abrahams; +Cc: ding
Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
> When viewing an article such as this one in Gnus
> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/2367>,
> I really want to see the plain text version of the article by default,
> but it very consistently comes through looking like this:
>
> 1. ( ) text/plain (*) text/html
>
> <Body of message>
>
> I have all the following customizations:
>
> '(gnus-buttonized-mime-types
> (quote
> ("multipart/alternative")))
> '(mm-discouraged-alternatives
> (quote
> ("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")))
> '(mm-inline-large-images
> (quote resize))
> '(mm-inline-text-html-with-images t)
>
> What am I missing?
I believe mm-discouraged-alternatives only affects the selection of
which part to render when *not* buttonizing. So you should drop the
gnus-buttonized-mime-types customization.
Bjørn
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2016-01-06 23:04 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2016-01-08 7:18 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-08 12:19 ` Bjorn Solberg
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From: Dave Abrahams @ 2016-01-08 7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
on Wed Jan 06 2016, Bjørn Mork <bjorn-AT-mork.no> wrote:
> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> When viewing an article such as this one in Gnus
>> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/2367>,
>> I really want to see the plain text version of the article by default,
>> but it very consistently comes through looking like this:
>>
>> 1. ( ) text/plain (*) text/html
>>
>> <Body of message>
>>
>> I have all the following customizations:
>>
>> '(gnus-buttonized-mime-types
>> (quote
>> ("multipart/alternative")))
>> '(mm-discouraged-alternatives
>> (quote
>> ("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")))
>> '(mm-inline-large-images
>> (quote resize))
>> '(mm-inline-text-html-with-images t)
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> I believe mm-discouraged-alternatives only affects the selection of
> which part to render when *not* buttonizing. So you should drop the
> gnus-buttonized-mime-types customization.
But sometimes I want to look at the HTML version, and the buttons are a
convenient way to switch back and forth that doesn't require remembering
an obscure key combination or rarely-used command. Can't I have it all?
-Dave
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2016-01-08 7:18 ` Dave Abrahams
@ 2016-01-08 12:19 ` Bjorn Solberg
2016-01-09 7:32 ` Steinar Bang
2016-01-09 13:28 ` Bjørn Mork
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bjorn Solberg @ 2016-01-08 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Abrahams; +Cc: ding
Dave Abrahams writes:
[...]
> But sometimes I want to look at the HTML version, and the buttons are a
> convenient way to switch back and forth that doesn't require remembering
> an obscure key combination or rarely-used command. Can't I have it all?
I have this at the end of my .gnus:
;; Display the text part, not the HTML part, by default:
(eval-after-load "mm-decode"
'(progn
(add-to-list 'mm-discouraged-alternatives "text/html")
(add-to-list 'mm-discouraged-alternatives "text/richtext")))
... which makes the text/plain version be displayed by default, as this:
1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html
Can't recall where I picked this up from, though.
Bjorn
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2016-01-08 7:18 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-08 12:19 ` Bjorn Solberg
@ 2016-01-09 7:32 ` Steinar Bang
2016-01-09 9:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-09 13:28 ` Bjørn Mork
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2016-01-09 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>:
> But sometimes I want to look at the HTML version, and the buttons are
> a convenient way to switch back and forth that doesn't require
> remembering an obscure key combination or rarely-used command. Can't I
> have it all?
I use `C-d' to display the MIME tree, and then explicitly select the
HTML part.
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* Re: How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default?
2016-01-09 7:32 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2016-01-09 9:51 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2016-01-09 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>:
>
>> But sometimes I want to look at the HTML version, and the buttons are
>> a convenient way to switch back and forth that doesn't require
>> remembering an obscure key combination or rarely-used command. Can't I
>> have it all?
>
> I use `C-d' to display the MIME tree, and then explicitly select the
> HTML part.
You can also use 'b' to toogle through the alternatives.
Andreas.
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* Re: How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default?
2016-01-08 7:18 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-08 12:19 ` Bjorn Solberg
2016-01-09 7:32 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2016-01-09 13:28 ` Bjørn Mork
2016-01-18 0:30 ` Dave Abrahams
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bjørn Mork @ 2016-01-09 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Abrahams; +Cc: ding
Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
> on Wed Jan 06 2016, Bjørn Mork <bjorn-AT-mork.no> wrote:
>
>> I believe mm-discouraged-alternatives only affects the selection of
>> which part to render when *not* buttonizing. So you should drop the
>> gnus-buttonized-mime-types customization.
>
> But sometimes I want to look at the HTML version, and the buttons are a
> convenient way to switch back and forth that doesn't require remembering
> an obscure key combination or rarely-used command. Can't I have it all?
Yes, I sometimes want that as well. You need to remember a single
obscure key combination: "K b" will reenable the buttons for the article
you are viewing.
Ctrl + d is nice as well. But I often want one of the actions from the
button context menu. E.g view the html part in an external browser. So
I use "K b" to be able to right click on the text/html button.
Bjørn
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* Re: How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default?
2016-01-09 13:28 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2016-01-18 0:30 ` Dave Abrahams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Dave Abrahams @ 2016-01-18 0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
on Sat Jan 09 2016, Bjørn Mork <bjorn-AT-mork.no> wrote:
> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>> on Wed Jan 06 2016, Bjørn Mork <bjorn-AT-mork.no> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe mm-discouraged-alternatives only affects the selection of
>>> which part to render when *not* buttonizing. So you should drop the
>>> gnus-buttonized-mime-types customization.
>>
>> But sometimes I want to look at the HTML version, and the buttons are a
>> convenient way to switch back and forth that doesn't require remembering
>> an obscure key combination or rarely-used command. Can't I have it all?
>
> Yes, I sometimes want that as well. You need to remember a single
> obscure key combination: "K b" will reenable the buttons for the article
> you are viewing.
>
> Ctrl + d is nice as well. But I often want one of the actions from the
> button context menu. E.g view the html part in an external browser. So
> I use "K b" to be able to right click on the text/html button.
Thanks! I knew that once...
It turns out that `W h' is a much more effective way for me to see the
HTML in most cases, but it's great to have a bag of tricks.
-Dave
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* Re: How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default?
2016-01-06 22:37 How to get multipart/alternative button to show plain text by default? Dave Abrahams
2016-01-06 22:59 ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-06 23:04 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2016-01-08 12:00 ` Teemu Likonen
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Teemu Likonen @ 2016-01-08 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Abrahams; +Cc: ding
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Dave Abrahams [2016-01-06 22:37:39Z] wrote:
> When viewing an article such as this one in Gnus
> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/2367>, I
> really want to see the plain text version of the article by default,
I think just this will do what you want:
mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext")
Leave other related variables to their default values although this is
nice too:
gnus-unbuttonized-mime-types '("text/plain")
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