* Re: agent strangeness [not found] ` <ilupv0m9fi0.fsf@xiphias.pdc.kth.se> @ 1999-08-18 16:06 ` Conrad Sauerwald 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Conrad Sauerwald @ 1999-08-18 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: nnimap, ding prequel: I was having a problem with pgnus0.95/nnimap0.128 (NTEmacs 20.4) using the agent, that whenever I refreshed "g" the group buffer unplugged, it would reset article counts to an old state instead of the values I saw when working plugged. I found that there was a "groups" file in ~/News/agent/<<mailserver>>/agent.lib next to an "active" file, which was the only candidate where gnus was getting these old article counts from. After renaming the groups file out of the way, everything was fine. So, I'm cross-posting this to ding to find out whether I'm getting around the problem this the wrong way, or the wrong way.. and hopefully find out the right way. Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> writes: > > I just experienced some strangeness while using the agent and am not > > quite sure whether this is a known problem. > > > > I went online and basically got my email like I'm used to (J j J Y g J > > s J j) and was able to read everything. I replied to a message and > > after firing it off wanted to check it, so I refreshed (g) to see > > queue updated. However, this also made all the email I had retrieved > > while online disappear. > > This looks similar to another bug reported to the ding-list recently > > http://www.gnus.org/list-archives/ding/199908/msg00059.html Indeed, but I only noticed it now I tried to reproduce the bug: once I make groups available again in nnimap/<<mailserver>>/agent.lib I get the wrong (old) counts after I press 'g' unplugged and after that lose all the marks set in groups for articles which the "groups" file didn't know existed. (I'm guessing the marks are still there on the server, checking) Yes, the marks are still on the server, but got misinterpreted/messed up while reading unplugged. They are correctly interpreted while plugged. > No, it should work. Anyway I think it's a Agent problem and not a > nnimap problem. It seems an agent problem, because it seems to get more than a listing of the groups from the "groups" file: initialising the active list and using that one instead of the values in the "active" file. > I wasn't able to reproduce it. Are you able to reproduce it all the > time, or does it only happen "sometimes"? If you remove all your old > 'groups' file and let Gnus generate new 'active' files, does it go > away? Yes, I can reproduce it (see above). And yes, it goes away after I move "groups" out of the way. In fact the "groups" file is never touched or regenerated if existing. Only "active" gets updated. Conrad. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Agent strangeness @ 1998-02-16 16:39 Samuel Tardieu 1998-02-16 16:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 1998-02-16 19:05 ` Eze Ogwuma 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Samuel Tardieu @ 1998-02-16 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw) I have a server (nttp:news.ext.jussieu.fr) covered by the agent, and all the groups that I take from this server also. If I fetch all the articles (`g' then `J s'), then go offline (`J j'), and press `g' again, I only see stars instead of article counts and Gnus tells me: Cannot request group comp.lang.ada: Opened server news.ext.jussieu.fr using directory ~/News/agent/nntp/news.ext.jussieu.fr/ I'm sure I've done something wrong :) But the directory exists... and seems to have all the proper files in it (I'm using Quassia 0.27 btw). Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@inf.enst.fr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Agent strangeness 1998-02-16 16:39 Agent strangeness Samuel Tardieu @ 1998-02-16 16:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 1998-02-16 18:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-02-17 8:42 ` Francois Felix Ingrand 1998-02-16 19:05 ` Eze Ogwuma 1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Samuel Tardieu @ 1998-02-16 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Sam" == Samuel Tardieu <sam@inf.enst.fr> writes: Sam> I have a server (nttp:news.ext.jussieu.fr) covered by the agent, Sam> and all the groups that I take from this server also. If I fetch Sam> all the articles (`g' then `J s'), then go offline (`J j'), and Sam> press `g' again, I only see stars instead of article counts and Sam> Gnus tells me: Sam> Cannot request group comp.lang.ada: Opened server Sam> news.ext.jussieu.fr using directory Sam> ~/News/agent/nntp/news.ext.jussieu.fr/ (I forgot to say that the error message is when I try to enter a "starred" group). Btw, if I don't press `g' after getting offline, I can enter any group whose articles have been fetched by `J s' previously. Also, if I use `gnus-unplugged', I get the same bogus behaviour (only stars for my NNTP groups). It looks like the server is only half-covered by the agent. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@inf.enst.fr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Agent strangeness 1998-02-16 16:44 ` Samuel Tardieu @ 1998-02-16 18:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-02-17 18:50 ` Samuel Tardieu 1998-02-17 8:42 ` Francois Felix Ingrand 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-16 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Samuel Tardieu <sam@inf.enst.fr> writes: > Sam> Cannot request group comp.lang.ada: Opened server > Sam> news.ext.jussieu.fr using directory > Sam> ~/News/agent/nntp/news.ext.jussieu.fr/ > > (I forgot to say that the error message is when I try to enter a > "starred" group). This has probably been fixed in 0.27, but you may see it for a while yet. The next time the Agent fetches somethign for these groups, it should put it in the place nnagent expects to find it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Agent strangeness 1998-02-16 18:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-17 18:50 ` Samuel Tardieu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Samuel Tardieu @ 1998-02-17 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: Lars> This has probably been fixed in 0.27, but you may see it for a Lars> while yet. The next time the Agent fetches somethign for these Lars> groups, it should put it in the place nnagent expects to find Lars> it. Well, it still doesn't with 0.29, and my bug report was already for 0.27... :( Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@inf.enst.fr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Agent strangeness 1998-02-16 16:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 1998-02-16 18:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-17 8:42 ` Francois Felix Ingrand 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Francois Felix Ingrand @ 1998-02-17 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw) Samuel Tardieu <sam@inf.enst.fr> writes: > >>>>> "Sam" == Samuel Tardieu <sam@inf.enst.fr> writes: > > Sam> I have a server (nttp:news.ext.jussieu.fr) covered by the agent, > Sam> and all the groups that I take from this server also. If I fetch > Sam> all the articles (`g' then `J s'), then go offline (`J j'), and > Sam> press `g' again, I only see stars instead of article counts and > Sam> Gnus tells me: > > Sam> Cannot request group comp.lang.ada: Opened server > Sam> news.ext.jussieu.fr using directory > Sam> ~/News/agent/nntp/news.ext.jussieu.fr/ > > (I forgot to say that the error message is when I try to enter a > "starred" group). > > Btw, if I don't press `g' after getting offline, I can enter any group > whose articles have been fetched by `J s' previously. Also, if I use > `gnus-unplugged', I get the same bogus behaviour (only stars for my > NNTP groups). It looks like the server is only half-covered by the > agent. Same pb here... 0.27 was supposed to fix it, but AFAIK it is still here. Lars is investigating it... -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Francois Felix INGRAND "Pourquoi est ce que France Info nous donne mailto:felix@laas.fr toutes les heures les cours de la bourse WWW: <http://www.laas.fr/~felix> et non pas le nombre de chomeurs?" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Agent strangeness 1998-02-16 16:39 Agent strangeness Samuel Tardieu 1998-02-16 16:44 ` Samuel Tardieu @ 1998-02-16 19:05 ` Eze Ogwuma 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-16 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Samuel Tardieu <sam@inf.enst.fr> writes: > I have a server (nttp:news.ext.jussieu.fr) covered by the agent, and > all the groups that I take from this server also. If I fetch all the > articles (`g' then `J s'), then go offline (`J j'), and press `g' > again, I only see stars instead of article counts and Gnus tells me: > > Cannot request group comp.lang.ada: Opened server news.ext.jussieu.fr > using directory ~/News/agent/nntp/news.ext.jussieu.fr/ I have the same problem. I can't enter my Agen groups when Unplugged. -- Eze Ogwuma ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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