From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/18756 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: MIME composition (was: Storing the group a message has been written to) Date: 16 Nov 1998 18:08:10 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199811161945.OAA24469@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157228 7963 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:40:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28424 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:12:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAB03261; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:09:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:09:13 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00182 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:09:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from CAraptorUU.geoworks.com (CAraptorUU.geoworks.com [208.232.87.36]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28299 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:08:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from maelstrom.geoworks.com by CAraptorUU.geoworks.com via smtpd (for sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) with SMTP; 17 Nov 1998 02:08:23 UT Original-Received: from quark.geoworks.com (quark.geoworks.com [198.211.201.100]) by maelstrom.geoworks.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23686 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:08:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ultraman.geoworks.com ([198.211.201.179]) by quark.geoworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12384; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:08:15 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: "Edward J. Sabol"'s message of "Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:45:09 -0500" Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070048 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.48) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:18756 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:18756 --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Edward J. Sabol" writes: > Excerpts from mail: (16-Nov-98) Re: MIME composition (was: Storing > the group a message has been written to) by Per Abrahamsen > > > I think we need a fascist widget based MIME compose method. It may > > not auto-save properly unless we do something smart with > > `format-alist'. But it should be easier for a novice user that the > > `markup language' based approach. > > > > Maybe the markup language can be used as the textual backend for a > > widget based MIME editor. > > I agree totally. This MML stuff might be a fine basis for doing MIME > composition behind the scenes, but it should be completely invisble > to the user. With all due respect to Lars, as a user interface goes, > MML is shockingly bad, IMHO. I think I would rather see the raw MIME > information instead, like mime-compose.el does. I honestly feel that > some combination of text properties and/or invisible/intangible text > with buttons/widgets as user-visible markers for non-editable MIME > parts is the way to go. I second the motion. I need mime for sending attachments -- that's it. I'd like to avoid dealing with a markup language, however small and easy to lean. It'd be nice if gnus had a "bonehead mime" setting where C-x C-a didn't insert sentinel text but instead added "Gnus-Attachment:" headers (or something). -- matta