disappearing mail

disappearing mail

[Anil Somayaji]

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If this has been answered before, sorry for the noise.  I tried
skimming through the last two months in the www.miranova.com ding
archive, but the search engine seems broken, so I wasn't able to do a
more thorough search.

* Summary: Newly split mail does not appear in nnml groups, either when
viewing new messages or all messages.  However, the mail does get
written to the appropriate directory, and NOV regeneration brings them
back.

* Details: I haven't changed my basic Gnus setup for a few months,
except for adding in new nnml groups (until today).  I was running
5.2.40, but as an attempt to solve this problem I upgraded to 5.4.15 -
no luck.  I've regenerated the NOV databases via
nnml-generate-nov-databases, and via selecting "g" from the server
buffer.  Both of these end up showing incorporated mail that was
invisible before, but subsequently incorporated mail still doesn't
appear.  This happens in several groups now, not just high-volume ones
(although I first noticed the problem in my linux-kernel group).
Selecting "s" from the server buffer appears to have no effect.
Blowing away ~/Mail/active doesn't fix things.  A notice of message
incorporation appears in *Messages*, with the right message number.
(Hmm...I don't think this used to happen...)  Setting nnml-nov-is-evil
to t doesn't seem to help.

FYI, I seem to have 294 groups listed in ~/Mail/active, so I'm not
eager to setup my groups from scratch...(unless there is a way to
create the groups w/o typing "G m" for each of them?)

* Config: Gnus 5.4.15, Emacs 19.34b, Linux 2.0.28, Debian 1.1.  Here's
my basic Gnus setup info:

(setq nnmail-spool-file "/mail/soma")
(setq nnmail-use-procmail nil)
(setq nnmail-procmail-directory "~/Incoming/")
(setq nnmail-delete-incoming nil)
(setq nnmail-tmp-directory "~/Tmp/Mail/")
(setq nnml-get-new-mail t)
(load-file (expand-file-name "~/.gnus-my-splits.el"))
(setq nnmh-be-safe nil)
(setq gnus-default-article-saver 'gnus-summary-save-in-folder)
(setq gnus-group-sort-function 'gnus-group-sort-by-level)
(setq gnus-mail-self-blind t)
(setq gnus-use-draft nil)
(setq gnus-message-archive-group nil)
(setq gnus-uncacheable-groups "^nnml")
(setq message-default-mail-headers "BCC: soma\n")
(setq message-signature nil)

(setq nnmail-split-methods
  '(
    ("linux-kernel" "linux-kernel@vger\.rutgers\.edu")
    ("linux-security" "linux-security@redhat\.com")
    ...many more... ))

I think that's it.  Please let me know if any other info would be
helpful.  And...thank you to Lars and everyone else for making such a
cool package!

  --Anil

- -- 
Anil Somayaji (soma@cs.unm.edu)
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~soma
(617)864-0122

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Re: disappearing mail

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Anil Somayaji <soma@ai.mit.edu> writes:

> * Summary: Newly split mail does not appear in nnml groups, either when
> viewing new messages or all messages.  However, the mail does get
> written to the appropriate directory, and NOV regeneration brings them
> back.

It would seem that your .overview files aren't being created properly,
for some reason or other.  Are new lines added to the files when new
mail is being incorporated?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: disappearing mail

[Anil Somayaji]

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I'm not sure if my .overview files were being updated properly.  I'm
afraid I can't replicate the problem now, because I went ahead and
blew away all of my gnus configuration files and started over.  The
process was slightly painful, but it seems to have fixed things - for
the most part.  However, afterwards I did notice disappearing mail in
my linux-kernel folder.  I managed to fix this by moving all of the
few hundred messages back into the folder, causing them all to be
renumbered (starting around 20000!).  Otherwise, things seem to be
working now.

If this problem resurfaces, I'll be sure to look at the .overview
files to see if they are getting updated or not.

  --Anil

P.S. The server buffer really saved me a lot of time when I was
starting over!  The only thing that confused me a bit was the fact
that you can subscribe to the same nnml group multiple times if you
aren't careful.

P.P.S. I love Gnus!

- -- 
Anil Somayaji (soma@cs.unm.edu)
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~soma
(617)864-0122

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