* Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues
@ 2007-06-04 17:07 Shanks N
2007-06-04 20:50 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Shanks N @ 2007-06-04 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On windows, the latest Emacs release seems to use
c:/Documents and settings/<user>/Application Data/ as the home path.
Fair enough, as it keeps users on 1 machine from trampling on each
other.
But this seems to mess with gnus in that I don't know all the
variables which need to be changed to point to the existing setup.
I have 0.6 in c:/gnu/elisp/nognus.6/, my Mail and News in c:/Mail and
c:/News.
All the other files are currently under c:/ i.e.
c:/.gnus.el
c:/.newsrc.eld
etc.
I'm the only user of the system. I thought making a simple
redirection for _emacs and .gnus.el would solve the problem.
It did partly.
one line (load-file "c:/_Emacs") as the _emacs file in the user/app
data seemed to sort out the Emacs init file issues at least.
What should I do for Gnus?
In Emacs 22, it creates the Mail, News and eld file under user app
folder while I want it to use the existing one under c:/
regards,
Shanks
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* Re: Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues
2007-06-04 17:07 Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues Shanks N
@ 2007-06-04 20:50 ` Reiner Steib
2007-06-05 15:14 ` Shanks N
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-06-04 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, Jun 04 2007, Shanks N wrote:
> On windows, the latest Emacs release seems to use
>
> c:/Documents and settings/<user>/Application Data/ as the home path.
[...]
> I have 0.6 in c:/gnu/elisp/nognus.6/, my Mail and News in c:/Mail and
> c:/News.
[...]
> c:/.gnus.el
> c:/.newsrc.eld
[...]
> What should I do for Gnus?
>
> In Emacs 22, it creates the Mail, News and eld file under user app
> folder while I want it to use the existing one under c:/
There are several options (recommended options listed first):
(1) Move the (Gnus) files and directories from
c:\ to ...\<user>\Application Data\
(2) Set the environment variable HOME to C:\, the Emacs will use this
instead of ...\<user>\Application Data\
(3) Set gnus-home-directory to "c:/" in .emacs (or _emacs): Gnus will
(modulo bugs?) use the files and directories from there.
(4) Set `gnus-directory', `message-directory', ... to your preferred
directories.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues
2007-06-04 20:50 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-06-05 15:14 ` Shanks N
2007-06-05 16:37 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Shanks N @ 2007-06-05 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Mon, Jun 04 2007, Shanks N wrote:
>
[...]
>
> There are several options (recommended options listed first):
>
> (1) Move the (Gnus) files and directories from
> c:\ to ...\<user>\Application Data\
>
> (2) Set the environment variable HOME to C:\, the Emacs will use this
> instead of ...\<user>\Application Data\
>
> (3) Set gnus-home-directory to "c:/" in .emacs (or _emacs): Gnus will
> (modulo bugs?) use the files and directories from there.
>
> (4) Set `gnus-directory', `message-directory', ... to your preferred
> directories.
>
This is what I had to plug in after a few runs of gnus-no-server in
the _Emacs.
(setq load-path (cons "c:/gnu/elisp/ngnus-0.6/lisp" load-path))
(require 'gnus-load)
(require 'info)
(setq Info-default-directory-list
(cons "c:/gnu/elisp/ngnus-0.6/texi" Info-default-directory-list))
(setq gnus-home-directory "c:/")
(setq gnus-directory "c:/")
(setq nnml-directory "c:/Mail")
(setq nndraft-directory "C:/Mail/drafts/")
(setq bbdb-file "c:/.bbdb")
(setq message-directory "c:/Mail")
(setq gnus-article-save-directory "c:/News")
(setq gnus-agent-directory "c:/News/agent")
(setq gnus-cache-directory "c:/News/cache")
(setq mail-default-directory "c:/Mail")
Hopefully, this is all that is required and you can see this post. :)
BTW, after launching gnus-no-server, doing an apropos-variable with
'-directory' did not show any nnfolder variables. Is there a reason
for that? I don't use nnfolder on this machine but nnml.
regards,
Shanks
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* Re: Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues
2007-06-05 15:14 ` Shanks N
@ 2007-06-05 16:37 ` Reiner Steib
2007-06-06 14:53 ` Shanks N
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-06-05 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, Jun 05 2007, Shanks N wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>> There are several options (recommended options listed first):
>>
>> (1) Move the (Gnus) files and directories from
>> c:\ to ...\<user>\Application Data\
>>
>> (2) Set the environment variable HOME to C:\, the Emacs will use this
>> instead of ...\<user>\Application Data\
>>
>> (3) Set gnus-home-directory to "c:/" in .emacs (or _emacs): Gnus will
>> (modulo bugs?) use the files and directories from there.
>>
>> (4) Set `gnus-directory', `message-directory', ... to your preferred
>> directories.
>
> This is what I had to plug in after a few runs of gnus-no-server in
> the _Emacs.
>
> (setq load-path (cons "c:/gnu/elisp/ngnus-0.6/lisp" load-path))
> (require 'gnus-load)
> (require 'info)
> (setq Info-default-directory-list
> (cons "c:/gnu/elisp/ngnus-0.6/texi" Info-default-directory-list))
> (setq gnus-home-directory "c:/")
If you choose option (3) i.e. `gnus-home-directory', the setting the
following variables (option (4)) should not be necessary:
> (setq gnus-directory "c:/")
> (setq nnml-directory "c:/Mail")
> (setq nndraft-directory "C:/Mail/drafts/")
> (setq message-directory "c:/Mail")
> (setq gnus-article-save-directory "c:/News")
> (setq gnus-agent-directory "c:/News/agent")
> (setq gnus-cache-directory "c:/News/cache")
Not used in Gnus:
> (setq mail-default-directory "c:/Mail")
Probably necessary for BBDB:
> (setq bbdb-file "c:/.bbdb")
> BTW, after launching gnus-no-server, doing an apropos-variable with
> '-directory' did not show any nnfolder variables. Is there a reason
> for that? I don't use nnfolder on this machine but nnml.
If you don't load nnfolder.el[c], the nnfolder variable aren't
defined.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues
2007-06-05 16:37 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-06-06 14:53 ` Shanks N
2007-06-11 16:12 ` Shanks N
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Shanks N @ 2007-06-06 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Tue, Jun 05 2007, Shanks N wrote:
>
>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>>> There are several options (recommended options listed first):
>>>
>>> (1) Move the (Gnus) files and directories from
>>> c:\ to ...\<user>\Application Data\
>>>
>>> (2) Set the environment variable HOME to C:\, the Emacs will use this
>>> instead of ...\<user>\Application Data\
>>>
>>> (3) Set gnus-home-directory to "c:/" in .emacs (or _emacs): Gnus will
>>> (modulo bugs?) use the files and directories from there.
>>>
>>> (4) Set `gnus-directory', `message-directory', ... to your preferred
>>> directories.
>>
[...]
>> (setq gnus-home-directory "c:/")
>
> If you choose option (3) i.e. `gnus-home-directory', the setting the
> following variables (option (4)) should not be necessary:
But it didn't work! The agent,drafts and marks folder are created in C:/
while it was under News folder previously. As a matter of abundant
caution, I set all the variables.
>
>> (setq gnus-directory "c:/")
>> (setq nnml-directory "c:/Mail")
>> (setq nndraft-directory "C:/Mail/drafts/")
>> (setq message-directory "c:/Mail")
>> (setq gnus-article-save-directory "c:/News")
>> (setq gnus-agent-directory "c:/News/agent")
>> (setq gnus-cache-directory "c:/News/cache")
>
[...]
>
> Probably necessary for BBDB:
>
>> (setq bbdb-file "c:/.bbdb")
That is correct.
[...]
> If you don't load nnfolder.el[c], the nnfolder variable aren't
> defined.
>
Ahh, thanks.
shanks
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* Re: Emacs 22.1 windows port, gnus and $HOME issues
2007-06-06 14:53 ` Shanks N
@ 2007-06-11 16:12 ` Shanks N
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Shanks N @ 2007-06-11 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Shanks N <shanks.n@gmail.com> writes:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 05 2007, Shanks N wrote:
>>
>>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>>>> There are several options (recommended options listed first):
>>>>
>>>> (1) Move the (Gnus) files and directories from
>>>> c:\ to ...\<user>\Application Data\
>>>>
>>>> (2) Set the environment variable HOME to C:\, the Emacs will use this
>>>> instead of ...\<user>\Application Data\
>>>>
>>>> (3) Set gnus-home-directory to "c:/" in .emacs (or _emacs): Gnus will
>>>> (modulo bugs?) use the files and directories from there.
>>>>
>>>> (4) Set `gnus-directory', `message-directory', ... to your preferred
>>>> directories.
>>>
[...]
It appears that _emacs is not read if it's there in C:\. It *has* to
be .emacs under C:\. But in App Data/ _emacs||.emacs are read with
Emacs 22.1.
I've filed a bug report about this bug.gnu.Emacs. There is a
discussion underway about how this should be treated. You can follow
it here.
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.bug/browse_thread/thread/39c1fe8199161f6c/7edb001198d1254e#7edb001198d1254e
Net result as of date; in Emacs 22.1 _emacs under C:\ is not read,
*only* .emacs.
regards,
Shanks
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