From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55360 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Greiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: automatic Agentizing of servers (was: Summary buffer Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:37:40 -0600 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nn0aleo5u.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <4nd6bhhf0j.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <877k0fwc8i.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87y8sv2smn.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87u13jxmzg.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1072741098 26734 80.91.224.253 (29 Dec 2003 23:38:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3900@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 30 00:38:15 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ab6xj-0006Ay-00 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:38:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ab6xR-0003p4-00; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:37:57 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ab6xJ-0003oy-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:37:50 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DB13A0047 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:37:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ab6xH-0004zz-00 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:37:47 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 37 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-216-12-206-172.ev1.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1072741067 18588 216.12.206.172 (29 Dec 2003 23:37:47 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:37:47 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w9sw3EjSoI+O+oduxy9+QjdEW84= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55360 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55360 Simon Josefsson writes: > Kevin Greiner writes: > >>> `gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods' >>> If you have never used the Agent before (or more technically, if >>> `~/News/agent/lib/servers' does not exist), Gnus will >>> automatically agentize a few servers for you. This variable >>> control which backends should be auto-agentized. It is typically >>> only useful to agentize remote backends. The auto-agentizing has >>> the same effect as running `J a' on the servers (see *note Server >>> Agent Commands::). If the file exist, you must manage the servers >>> manually by adding or removing them, this variable is only >>> applicable the first time you start Gnus. The default is `(nntp >>> nnimap)'. >> >> That's inappropriate as gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods isn't >> customizable. > > Try 'cvs up'. > >> It is also incorrect as, as I mentioned earlier, the agent has more >> uses than agentizing remote backends. > > When do you want to agentize a non-remote backend like nnml or > nnfolder? In any case, it does say 'typically', so weird situations > like nnml over slow remote NFS is conceivable. Can you suggest (or > better, commit) improved wording? My apologies for mispeaking. I don't like stepping on capabilities that other people introduced and, as this thread progressed, that is what seemed to be happening here. I just checked backwards in the log only to find that you introduced the gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods variable. That makes you the expert on how it should be used, or in this case initialized. Kevin