From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45405 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Danny Siu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnmail-split-fancy-with-parent comments Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:13:12 -0700 Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025122474 19055 127.0.0.1 (26 Jun 2002 20:14:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17NJBR-0004xE-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:14:34 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17NJBA-0007Zm-00; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:14:16 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:14:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA25600 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:14:23 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 5746 invoked by alias); 26 Jun 2002 20:13:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5736 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2002 20:13:44 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp-relay-2.adobe.com (192.150.11.2) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 Jun 2002 20:13:44 -0000 Original-Received: from inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com (inner-relay-2 [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.adobe.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5QKB39A008483 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (mailsj-dev.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.192]) by inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5QKBCUU005153 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from GIGI.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.155.200]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 v1 Jul 11 2001 16:32:57) with ESMTP id GYBXI000.JQ6 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:13:12 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Location: San Jose, CA X-Emacs: 21.2.1 X-Face: fHBvLrQQW(GRz#RNTAN(,')p8NGv}{6dMh\:?%*D\+8hgkiA_dub1@\,Y"r5'a8C(8e~cGG(WFTU\OlAqI[B?V7m'ZGkquvZ/d k~E"A"@WK;0mLF&\%W1kIC]O"z#/>YNUefE1%5/NUX;ml]@$nW;05Z9uZ/CqTz]A)+`1ROuF~||pG= k>Zi@hE- X-Mailer: Oort Gnus v0.07 In-Reply-To: (Jan Rychter's message of "Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:17:13 +0200") Original-Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45405 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45405 On a similar topics, I have nnmail-cache-accepted-message-ids set to t and yet 'B m' articles between IMAP groups doesn't record the group name along with message id in .nnmail-cache as it should. i have nnmail-treat-duplicates set to 'warn anyone seeing the same? Jan Rychter writes: Jan> I've been playing with nnmail-split-fancy-with-parent and I find it Jan> very confusing, to say the least. It seems some of the effects are Jan> quite unexpected. I've already reported one of them (the manual needs Jan> to be made clearer about nnmail-cache-accepted-message-ids). Jan> I've also just discovered that setting Jan> nnmail-cache-accepted-message-ids to t produces some additional Jan> unwanted side effects: Gnus promptly records ALL accepted messages, Jan> including the ones I've sent myself, which are filed in archive Jan> groups. This means two things: Jan> -- since I have nnmail-treat-duplicates set to 'delete, I will never Jan> see E-mails that I've sent (since their message-id's got stored Jan> in .nnmail-cache), Jan> -- the replies to my E-mails will come back and get filed in... you Jan> guessed it: archive groups. That's exactly where .nnmail-cache Jan> will point to. Jan> I guess for nnmail-split-fancy-with-parent to work as I expected it Jan> would have to ignore E-mails stored in the archive groups, which in Jan> my case are also nnml: (setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnml Jan> "private")) I guess there is no easy way to do that -- can such Jan> functionality be added? Jan> Another completely different issue is how Jan> nnmail-split-fancy-with-parent handles crossposts. Namely, it doesn't Jan> handle them at all, since .nnmail-cache only stores ONE group Jan> name. Can .nnmail-cache be made to keep more than just ONE group, and Jan> correspondingly, nnmail-split-fancy-with-parent be made to crosspost Jan> incoming articles into several groups according to .nnmail-cache? Jan> --J. -- Danny Siu