From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/37649 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Casadonte Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap - not quite there yet? Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:56:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035173025 14939 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:03:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding-list Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 26569 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 19:56:55 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO terrapin.local.northbound-train.com) (216.231.57.205) by gnus.org with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 19:56:55 -0000 Original-Received: from JCASADONTE (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by terrapin.local.northbound-train.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79Iwhr25016; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:58:45 -0400 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 95 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37649 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37649 On Thu, 09 Aug 2001, Kai Gro=DFjohann wrote: > Joe Casadonte writes: >> 1) Despite everything I've tried, mostly with levels, I cannot >> avoid having all accounts logged into at Gnus startup. I only >> want two or three accounts checked, and I'll check the others >> once every couple of days. Perhaps I need to define the virtual >> servers but make them inactive somehow, and then manually >> activate them from the server buffer? Aside from not knowing >> how to do that off-hand, it seems a bit of a PITA. > > Hm. I've got a foreign nntp server that I'm not checking, and that > works. Maybe Gnus is trying to look for new groups on the nnimap > servers? You could try to make them foreign servers, rather than > secondary. I can't seem to get this to work. How do I specify the .authinfo file to use on a foreign server? I can do this with the secondary server definition. Is there such a thing as Server Parameters (analogous to Group Parameters)? I couldn't find anything in the info file. > A foreign server can be created via the server buffer, accessible > via ^ from the Group buffer. Secondary servers are secondary > because they're listed in gnus-secondary-select-methods. What is the real difference between a foreign & secondary server? Just how you define it? And maybe the fact that foreign servers/groups are not checked until explicitly asked? >> 2) Again, despite attempts to change the behavior (mostly with >> levels) I cannot avoid having nnimap check every folder when I >> do a gnus-group-get-new-news. The folders don't /activate/, >> mind you, but I have to sit thru every one of them being >> checked. > > Did you kill the unwanted groups (with C-k)? That removed it entirely :( I just want to have it not be activated until I ask for a certain level to be activated. With nntp, I can have a group at a certain level, say 3, and not have it be queried or even listed, until I asked for it specifically. Example: I added an nntp group and set the level to 3. My gnus-activate-level is set to 1. When I run gnus-group-get-new-news this new group does not get queried. That's what I'd like to have happen with my lower-level IMAP folders. > Despite them thingies being listed in M-x list-processes RET, > they're just network connections. No extra process needed for them. > (Unless you connect to them via a shell command.) Bingo! I connect thru an SSH port forwarding tunnel. > Doing what you want would require a serious rewrite of the > infrastructure. I would imagine so :( >> 4) As has been mentioned elsewhere in recent threads, nnimap (and >> all of Gnus for that matter) is not terribly fault tolerant. If >> a server connection goes down, the connection needs to be >> severed manually before it can be reconnected. Again, this is >> more of a general Gnus issue, I think, but nnimap seems a bit >> more stubborn then nntp. > > Believe it or not, I never have those problems. When the connection > goes down for some reason, Gnus brings it back up. Other than a > slight delay, I don't notice anything. > > Do you use a shell command to access your IMAP servers (ssh, say)? > That might be more problematic. Bingo again. So, not knowing enough about SSH, this is more an SSH issue then a Gnus/nnimap issue? Thanks for the help so far! -- Regards, joe Joe Casadonte jcasadonte@northbound-train.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Llama Fresh Farms =3D> http://www.northbound-train.com Gay Media Resource List =3D> http://www.northbound-train.com/gaymedia.ht= ml Perl for Win32 =3D> http://www.northbound-train.com/perlwin32.h= tml Emacs Stuff =3D> http://www.northbound-train.com/emacs.html Music CD Trading =3D> http://www.northbound-train.com/cdr.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Live Free, that's the message! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---