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From: Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:18:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uvfsx5s2s.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ilu65kxa54l.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de> writes:

[Klingon and Tengwar in Unicode]

> Wasn't the Klingon proposal for Unicode rejected?  Tengwar has been a
> proposal for ten years, or so, and nothing has happend, as far as I
> know.

I have no idea. I was just looking for exotic examples and these two
were the second and third ones that came to my mind.

[...]
> UTF-16?  It's not even a well define encoding scheme, two files may
> contain the exact same Unicode code points, but may differ in a binary
> comparison, due to byte ordering.  

That's what the byte order mark is for.

> And concatenating two UTF-16 strings from different sources requires
> knowledge about the encoding. And surrogate pairs complicate matters
> as well.

Why do you think that surrogate pairs complicate matters? There can't
be any confusion whether an arbitrary 16 bit value is part a surrogate
pair or not; and if it is, whether it is the higher surrogate or the
lower one. As for concatenating I'd say this depends on whether the
tools are able to deal with it. But I do have to admit that I have
zero experience with UTF-16. I don't know how good it is in daily
use. I use only UTF-8. I mentioned UTF-16 only because I am told that
it is important in some areas (Java, MS Windows, XML ...).

    Oliver
-- 
29 Thermidor an 211 de la Révolution
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-16 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-14 15:48 Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 22:39 ` Frank Schmitt
2003-08-15 18:22   ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 23:01 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 13:50   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-15 16:48     ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 18:10       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16  0:23         ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16  9:48           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 13:01             ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16 15:36               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 17:14                 ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-16 19:29                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-19 14:54                   ` Miles Bader
2003-08-20 15:24                     ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-21  0:20                       ` Miles Bader
2003-08-16 17:23                 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-16 19:18                   ` Oliver Scholz [this message]
2003-08-16 22:24                     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-17 12:30                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-17 16:40                         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18  2:20                           ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18 15:58                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-18  2:16                       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18  2:09                   ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-28 13:38                     ` Jens Müller
2003-08-28 13:35                   ` Jens Müller
2003-08-17  0:57                 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-17 17:24                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-17 18:21                     ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-15 18:24   ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-16  0:35     ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-14 23:05 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-15 17:00   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16  7:43     ` Ivan Boldyrev
2003-08-17 17:27       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18  6:01     ` Steinar Bang

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