From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46524 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arnd Kohrs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam*.el and ifile-gnus.el? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:50:38 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <8765xdva0q.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031903539 32572 127.0.0.1 (13 Sep 2002 07:52:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17plFQ-0008TD-00 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:52:17 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17plEt-0005xt-00; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 02:51:43 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 13 Sep 2002 02:52:20 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA16079 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 02:52:07 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 24977 invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2002 07:51:23 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24972 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2002 07:51:21 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ns1.castify.net) (root@192.70.35.20) by gnus.org with SMTP; 13 Sep 2002 07:51:21 -0000 Original-Received: from CLEMENTINE (gw.castify.net [194.98.78.19]) by ns1.castify.net (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id g8D7pEG24388; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:51:14 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Mailer: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: (jhbrown@ai.mit.edu's message of "13 Sep 2002 03:17:34 -0400") Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46524 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46524 Jeremy> Now that I think about this, this is probably a major Jeremy> problem with using ifile and imap together: one of the main Jeremy> points using imap is not downloading the entire message Jeremy> before you really want it. I'll bet gnus only downloads the Jeremy> headers for splitting. To use client-side ifile, gnus will Jeremy> have to download entire messages (or at least all the text Jeremy> parts), which will probably have significant performance Jeremy> impact when you're on a slow connection. When I surface for Jeremy> air in a week or two, I'll maybe look into implementing this Jeremy> as an option, and see how much people grouse about Jeremy> performance impact. Well, this is the trade-off of using IMAP. On the one hand it's a relief that you store your mails somewhere on the net accessible and save, and on the other hand you can't do nifty stuff such as nnir and ifile. I am about to re-migrate from nnml to imap. However, before I start, I would like to raise two questions: First, is it not so that during splitting for moving a mail from the imap-inbox to the imap-destination-folder, the mail is in its text-entirety copied to emacs and than stored on the imap-destination-folder? So there would be hardly any performance loss if all mails are downloaded in their text-entirety assuming that most(all) mails get moved anyway to another folder? Second, would ifile make sense on headers only, for spam decisions ? Cheers, Arnd.