From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28712 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Toby Speight Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: the balloon-help specifier problem. Date: 11 Jan 2000 12:15:30 +0000 Organization: Citrix Systems (Cambridge) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165510 31269 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:58:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F38D051E for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:20:52 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAB00218; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:17:17 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:17:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07181 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:17:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com (gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com [195.153.38.114]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22376D051E for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:15:33 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sh.ctxuk.citrix.com (sh.ctxuk.citrix.com [10.30.224.4]) by gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com (8.8.7/BSCF-1.7) with ESMTP id MAA21774 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:15:32 GMT Original-Received: from hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com (hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com [10.30.224.26]) by sh.ctxuk.citrix.com (8.8.7/BSCF-1.7) with SMTP id MAA10210 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:15:31 GMT Original-Received: from 10.30.224.23 by hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:15:31 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Original-Received: from lanber.cam.eu.citrix.com (LANBER [10.70.1.235]) by hwmail01.ctxuk.citrix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id CN6H9KYH; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:15:31 -0000 Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List Original-Lines: 31 In-Reply-To: Didier Verna's message of "28 Dec 1999 19:35:32 +0100" X-Author-Info: Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28712 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28712 dv> Didier Verna 0> In article , dv wrote: dv> I think I've found why Lars attempted to turn the %< %> format dv> specs into something else, corrently broken. Indeed, the < and > dv> characters are now used in the /summary/ line format with the dv> following meaning: dv> dv> ,---- dv> | `>' dv> | One space for each thread level. dv> | dv> | `<' dv> | Twenty minus thread level spaces. dv> `----- dv> dv> I'd prefer to keep them for the balloon-help property as before, dv> because they constitute an open/close set, like [] () and {}, all dv> already taken. What do you think? When they were introduced for the balloon-help, some sort of replacement for their existing use as thread indentation should have been provided. Either that, or the balloon-help should have used something not already taken. This has bitten me several times, and it doesn't get any less annoying. BTW, if we're going to change the thread-depth-spaces format specifiers, can I suggest using some sort of matched pair - e.g. a lowercase/uppercase pair of letters. And it will need a NEWS entry as a user-visible change.