From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68339 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dale.hagglund@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: does agent expire cached articles when server expires them? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:28:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235885386 19202 80.91.229.12 (1 Mar 2009 05:29:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 05:29:46 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16779@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Mar 01 06:31:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LdeGU-0005hO-LI for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:31:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdeEZ-0007bI-On; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:29:03 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdeEY-0007b7-K9 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:29:02 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LdeEV-0005f2-K5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:29:02 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LdeEr-0007kL-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:29:21 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LdeEN-0005Lx-E5 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:51 +0000 Original-Received: from d205-206-84-231.abhsia.telus.net ([205.206.84.231]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:51 +0000 Original-Received: from dale.hagglund by d205-206-84-231.abhsia.telus.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:28:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: d205-206-84-231.abhsia.telus.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (windows-nt) In-Reply-To: (Greg Troxel's message of "Tue\, 17 Feb 2009 07\:04\:13 -0500") Cancel-Lock: sha1:soFBtFt+IMKUE+70/68YqNoW8lc= X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68339 Archived-At: [I apologize if this is a duplicate post. Operator error caused my first posting attempt to fail, and I couldn't tell how far it got in the process. --dale] greg> I have found agent and IMAP to be unreliable. I would recommend greg> figuring out some way to copy messages to a real backup location, greg> rather than relying on the agent to keep them. Thanks for the feedback. So far, at least, I haven't run across any weirdness, or at least not any that I've recognized. You're probably right about the separate backup, but I do like the fact that all my mail is in my primary inbox. That'll probably become too slow eventually, though. Until recently, I didn't use nnimap. Rather, I would use the imap mail source and always drag messages out of the server into an nnml group. A bit of work with nnmail-split-fancy solved the archiving problem. However, recently changes have meant that I access the imap server directly from both home and work, so sucking out the messages at one place or the other is a no-no. Hence the switch to nnimap. Am I missing some capability here? Ie, as I fetch new messages into an nnimap group, I'd like to archive them to group in a differnet back end (for instance, nnml). I just took a look at nnimap splitting (both regular and facy), but it looked to me like I could only split to groups on the same imap server. Am I missing something. greg> It could be I don't understand the point of the agent, or that greg> agent and IMAP don't make sense together conceptually - IMAP is greg> not a read-only message store, and non-gnus clients can modify it. Dale.