From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28011 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Toby Speight Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: using procmail to split directly into nnimap groups Date: 09 Dec 1999 19:59:56 +0000 Organization: Citrix Systems (Cambridge) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164933 27564 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:48:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20504 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:01:10 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB25512; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:00:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:00:38 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28262 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:00:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com (root@gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com [195.153.38.114]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20467 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:59:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sh.ctxuk.citrix.com (sh.ctxuk.citrix.com [10.30.224.4]) by gatekeeper.ctxuk.citrix.com (8.8.7/BSCF-1.7) with ESMTP id TAA04366 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:59:53 GMT Original-Received: from hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com (hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com [10.30.224.26]) by sh.ctxuk.citrix.com (8.8.7/BSCF-1.7) with SMTP id TAA09582 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:59:52 GMT Original-Received: from 10.30.224.23 by hwav01.ctxuk.citrix.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 09 Dec 1999 19:59:52 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Original-Received: from lanber.cam.citrix.com (LANBER [10.70.1.235]) by hwmail01.ctxuk.citrix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id Y2VZTWTK; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:59:52 -0000 Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List Original-Lines: 31 In-Reply-To: Matt McClure's message of "09 Dec 1999 14:04:27 -0500" X-Author-Info: Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28011 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28011 Matt> Matt McClure 0> In , Matt wrote: Matt> But procmail doesn't use the IMAP server. It doesn't even need Matt> an IMAP server to work. I told you I don't use procmail ;-) Matt> I suspect that the non-server-based Gnus backends simply expect Matt> that they are the ones that put messages into groups. That's true. Matt> Nnimap, on the other hand, queries the IMAP server, which looks Matt> in the folder and is smart enough to do the right thing when Matt> something else has modified the file. Is that right? Probably. I guess your IMAP server looks in the filesystem[1] every time, rather than assuming its model of the world is up to date. It's possible to imagine a Gnus mail-type backend that does this, but the current ones don't. Of course, all this is different on IMAP servers that don't use a filesystem in the same way (e.g. servers with a database backend - I assume these exist?). Either way, of course, Gnus itself doesn't directly enter articles with IMAP - it's done by the server. [1] I'm counting a check of file times as "looking in the filesystem" here.