From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22042 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Yaitskov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How many articles to read...? Date: 24 Mar 1999 16:32:45 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160034 26050 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:27:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29931 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB03402; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:32:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:32:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28273 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:32:18 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com [24.2.9.66]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29868 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:32:05 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from LUCY ([24.65.93.139]) by mail.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990324213129.ZFPG13966.mail.rdc1.on.home.com@LUCY> for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:31:29 -0800 Original-To: Ding In-Reply-To: Karl Kleinpaste's message of "24 Mar 1999 16:05:30 -0500" Original-Lines: 49 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/21.2(beta13) (Demeter) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22042 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22042 Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Dmitry Yaitskov writes: > > Is it a bug or a feature? > > Depends on how you look at it. For precision, it's a bug. For > simplicity, it's a feature. Yes, I see your point. > > I mean, I don't really care about the articles' numbers and have no > > way to control them, why doesn't gnus show e.g. the number of > > entires (lines?) in the .overview file instead? > > Because that can be very, very expensive. > > Consider Gnus as a newsreader. (Mail handling is just Gnus looking at > something news-like while stoned on really bad crack.) Is it really so? Agreeing with your other points, I don't think you're exactly right saying that gnus is primarily a newsreader. Ok, I know that that's what it's called. Still, of all the people using gnus, how many do you think use it for news only, using something else for mail? Probably a lot, but I think another "a lot" uses it for both... if for no other reason than to not having to learn all the keys, shortcuts and quirks of another program. And as a matter of fact it *is* a very nice mail reader. Anyway, you're right in saying that it is natural for gnus to simply subtract the article numbers to get at that figure it asks about. > So you learn to live with mail groups' counts being wrong, or... > > > Can this behavior somehow be changed without seeting the limit to > > INT_MAX? > > - Enter the group now mistakenly perceived as having too many articles. > - Process-mark the whole set. > - `B m' to move them all to the same group. > > The resulting article range will be contiguous and relatively narrow. Many thanks for the tip. -- Cheers, -Dima.