From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59765 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gmail-like mail backend? Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107966109 19916 80.91.229.2 (9 Feb 2005 16:21:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8306@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 09 17:21:49 2005 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cyual-0005mc-NF for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:21:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cyubr-0000D1-00; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:22:35 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cyubn-0000Cw-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:22:31 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cyubd-0008PE-10 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:22:21 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cyubc-00067H-00 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:22:20 +0100 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CyuZb-0005aR-BW for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:20:15 +0100 Original-Received: from 146-115-127-135.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([146.115.127.135]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:20:15 +0100 Original-Received: from dave by 146-115-127-135.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:20:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 146-115-127-135.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FUoK/b1zym57lA6RPIpKkFY/bvw= X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-From: ding-owner+m8306@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-To: ding-account@gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59765 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59765 Miles Bader writes: > I've come to really like the gmail notion of "groups" (really called > "labels") actually just being views into a big pool of messages, so that > a single message can easily exist in many groups, and things that happen > to that message (mark it as read, delete it) are immediately visible in > all relevant groups. Another nice thing (in general) is that it ends to > operate on threads as a whole, rather than individual messages; e.g., if > you add a particular "label" to a thread, subsequent replies that arrive > in that same thread show up in all relevant labels/groups, without the > need to add classify them. Moving threads around is very lightweight. > > I wonder how hard would it be to have somethings niceness in gnus? > > Gnus already has the notion of crossposts from news, but the pervasive > use of group-specific article-number ranges seems somewhat problematic. > > Anyway just food for thought. I like using Emacs to read email a lot > more than using a web-browser, but Gnus is seeming a bit clunky at the > moment compared to gmail... Something like this has been a biggie on my list of desired features for a long time, even before gmail came out. It's a bit more complicated in Gnus I think, because you don't have the benefit of actually having a single pool of messages -- they're scattered across local stores, IMAP servers, and NNTP servers. But it's a worthy goal anyway. Unfortunately I haven't been able to learn enough about Gnus to approach hacking it at that level... yet. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com