From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66552 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: GNKSA (Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval) compliance Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:43:23 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206387876 29261 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2008 19:44:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:44:36 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15038@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Mar 24 20:45:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JdsbP-0008Me-0l for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:45:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JdsaO-0004d5-CY; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:44:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JdsaN-0004cq-3L for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:43:59 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JdsaG-0004Io-DN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:43:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JdsaO-0008Em-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:44:00 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2OJhnGu003469 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:43:50 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A43A1C60F for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:43:49 +0100 (CET) X-Face: 1;h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB;kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm;%Od Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66552 Archived-At: Hi, I noticed that Gnus still fails to comply with GNKSA (Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval) The last evaluation of Gnus was in 2000, Gnus 5.8, which failed on several strict and soft requirements: ,----[ http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/Evaluations/gnus-5.8.txt ] | Regarding the strict GNKSA requirements (MUSTs), Gnus 5.8 | FAILS on the following points: | | 11b Will not refuse to post articles without subject | 12b Fails to refuse to post messages with syntactically incorrect From: | | Gnus 5.8 violates `soft' GNKSA requirements (SHOULDs) | in the following way: | | 3c Fails to encourage setting a Followup-To on large crossposts | 7e Fails to omit `broken' Message-IDs. | 16b Does not refuse posting an empty article | 16d Does not refuse to post quoted text only | 16f Does not try to prevent posting multiple copies entirely `---- Checks for several requirements have been added in Oort (5.10), but current CVS still failed on these, cf. : 7) Make sure followups contain valid References e. Does not propagate broken Message-IDs in original References 10) Provides adequate quotation and attribution facilities d. Omits correctly (`-- ') delimited signatures from quoted text by default 15) Separate signatures correctly, and don't use excessive ones b. Warns against or refuses to use excessive signatures 16) Tries to prevent obvious user errors c. Warns when post articles containing quoted material only d. Refuses posting quoted-text-only articles In order to comply with 7e, I changed the regexp in `message-shorten-references' to be more strict. For 10d, I changed `message-signature-separator' to the strict value "^-- " and changed `message-cite-function' to `message-cite-original-without-signature'. For 15b, there already was `(message-check 'signature ...) in `message-check-news-body-syntax', but it always passed because of this bogus test: (goto-char (point-max)) (if (> (count-lines (point) (point-max)) 5) For 16c and 16 Gnus failed when using posting styles because then the buffer was marked as modified and the `message-checksum' check in `message-yank-original' was skipped. I don't know if anyone still cares about GNKSA compliance, but nevertheless most of these items are bugs and needed to be fixed. If these changes cause any problems, please report. I intend to backport them to v5-10/Emacs_22 after some testing in the trunk. It is probably too late for inclusion in Emacs 22.2 / Gnus 5.10.10, though. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/