From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64490 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Top posting related changes in the cvs Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 22:45:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175633178 3600 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2007 20:46:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Gabor Z. Papp" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 03 22:46:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HYptN-0000hl-TA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 22:46:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYpwY-00015E-U4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:49:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYpwD-0000yw-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYpwC-0000xu-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYpwC-0000xp-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HYpsz-0003yI-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:45:50 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l33Kjigh011214; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 22:45:44 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575181236D; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 22:45:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: #vK]N[`vqjuod*|)'[iD7/"3AB-ApT%fmN"LWAg@oS7OesGv~)n[OBTLM#I="J'Y^-7I I/ps7o_'IK@#-Rs{::DZ@O8yS|fexe,XslY[:dNWOb~>?mC-&i_c)say:"\IpA.5U.b]'NY; Pks{lb h.+#6%DpZuaK3dcHB`Av3zc:r!C%~s0&m, tWj]&}, qg.+0ww2gK%f!:GK|wMl.I!(voY*1"^li8"~B BNG)9LvPi?^DMR-GVDnZqhu*3Hi, +g=wFhI)BL6&u{EOVEHjVEVq~d?_}lMntWAc3(6?kftjc>_f>! g0wM(qPM$d5]^TT_Qyi&L?LGVG)SHN;Gk/,pkY9,~ Mail-Followup-To: "Gabor Z. Papp" , Thien-Thi Nguyen , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Gabor Z. Papp's message of "Tue\, 03 Apr 2007 19\:29\:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.96 (gnu/linux) X-DCC--Metrics: arktur 104; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69015 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64490 Archived-At: On Tue, Apr 03 2007, Gabor Z. Papp wrote: > I have updated my cvs tree just today, earlier used a checkout from 20070223. > > Discovered, that something changed in lisp/message.el, related to the > Top posting. When I'm replying to a message, in the reply buffer the > cursor points after the citation, not like earlier at the bottom of > the citation. (You meant "start of the citation" in the last part?) It has nothing to do with the top posting code. The top posting code is new in No Gnus, but the change that causes the new (bottom) cursor position came from a change in the stable (v5-10) branch: ,---- | 2007-03-27 Thien-Thi Nguyen | | * message.el (message-yank-original): Fix bug: | Don't switch point and mark unnecessarily. `---- Thien-Thi, could you please explain which bug you intended to fix? To put the cursor immediately after the citation line ("Whomever writes:" line). The user should start editing there, removing the cited portions the he won't reply to. When doing changes in Gnus it would be nice to dicuss such changes on ding@gnus.org - especially WRT the upcoming Emacs release (in this case, I didn't even see any discussion on emacs-devel or on the pretest-list). Unless there is a very good reason for this change, I intend to revert it. I certainly don't want Gnus in Emacs 22 behave this way by default! Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/