Re: thread sorting broken

Re: thread sorting broken

[Reiner Steib]

On Tue, Nov 06 2007, Ulrich Windl wrote:

> In GNUS the thread sorting is broken (see screenshot): The Subject "Re:
> booklet with pstops: avoid clear page" was sorted with in the thread "Spot
> colors". It seems to be very confusing.

I.e. the article in the article buffer doesn't match the line in the
summary buffer?

Last time I heard about this, it turned out that the overview of the
news server was corrupted.

I tried to reproduce the problem with comp.language.postscript, but
the thread in question has been expired from my server.

If you'd like to debug, try the following commands and post the output:

telnet YourServer nntp
MODE READER
GROUP comp.language.postscript
XOVER 96392-96392
ARTICLE 96392

(96392 is the article number from your screen shot)

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Re: thread sorting broken

[Reiner Steib]

[ Please keep the mailing list Cc-ed, thanks. ]

On Wed, Nov 07 2007, Ulrich Windl wrote:

> On 6 Nov 2007 at 22:29, Reiner Steib wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 06 2007, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>> > In GNUS the thread sorting is broken (see screenshot): The
>> > Subject "Re: booklet with pstops: avoid clear page" was sorted
>> > with in the thread "Spot colors". It seems to be very confusing.
>> 
>> I.e. the article in the article buffer doesn't match the line in the
>> summary buffer?
>
> Yes.
>
>> 
>> Last time I heard about this, it turned out that the overview of the
>> news server was corrupted.
>
> I wondered whether "google" (appearing in some headers) plays any
> role there.

I don't think so.
 
>> I tried to reproduce the problem with comp.language.postscript, but
>> the thread in question has been expired from my server.
>> 
>> If you'd like to debug, try the following commands and post the output:
>> 
>> telnet YourServer nntp
>
> My server wants authentication. What are the commands for that?

AUTHINFO USER username
AUTHINFO PASS password

> Can't I dump the articles from within GNUS?

Not AFAIK.  And I'd like to verify my guess is correct without
involving Gnus.

You can report the commands in Gnus though:

,----[ <f1> v nntp-record-commands RET ]
| nntp-record-commands is a variable defined in `nntp.el'.
| Its value is t
| 
| Documentation:
| *If non-nil, nntp will record all commands in the "*nntp-log*" buffer.
`----

BTW, it's Gnus, not GNUS, see (info "(gnus)History").

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Re: thread sorting broken

[Reiner Steib]

Ulrich, please keep the mailing list <ding@gnus.org> copied.  Other
developers aren't able to help you if you direct your replies only to
me.

On Thu, Nov 08 2007, Ulrich Windl wrote:

> group comp.lang.postscript
> 211 1340 95587 96943 comp.lang.postscript
> xover 96392-96392
> 224 96392-96392 fields follow
> 96395   Re: booklet with pstops: avoid clear page       Max Montauk
> <mat974@web.de>     Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:47:01 -0700
> <1186613221.371624.48270@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> <1186523386.658337.318000@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
> <zgqudws3en65.1iiiajvbolj49$.dlg@40tude.net>        3158    37
> Xref: uni-berlin.de comp.lang.postscript:96395
> .

Hm, im not an NNTP expert, but is the server's answer correct?  You
requested "xover 96392-96392" and the server replied with data of
article 96395.

> article 96392
> 220 96392 <1186613221.371624.48270@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> article
> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews.google.com!
> o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From:  Max Montauk <mat974@web.de>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
> Subject: Re: booklet with pstops: avoid clear page
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:47:01 -0700
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 37
> Message-ID: <1186613221.371624.48270@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
> References: <1186523386.658337.318000@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
>    <zgqudws3en65.1iiiajvbolj49$.dlg@40tude.net>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 78.51.97.8
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1186613221 1075 127.0.0.1 (8 Aug 2007
> 22:47:01 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 22:47:01 +0000 (UTC)
> In-Reply-To: <zgqudws3en65.1iiiajvbolj49$.dlg@40tude.net>
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-AT;
> rv:1.8.0.13pre) Gecko/20070505 Iceape/1.0.9
> (Debian-1.0.10~pre070720-0etch1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
> Injection-Info: o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=78.51.97.8;
>    posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0
> Xref: uni-berlin.de comp.lang.postscript:96395

Bye, Reiner
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