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From: Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>
To: <ding@gnus.org>
Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: Version numbers of unreleased stable and development versions
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:42:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <v94plwj14l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mux1wh1cobk.fsf@uzeb.lrde.epita.fr> (Didier Verna's message of "Mon, 28 May 2007 11:03:27 +0200")

On Mon, May 28 2007, Didier Verna wrote:

> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote:
>
>> Releases (beta and devel) from Gnus repository and CVS versions:
>>
>> ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------.
>> | Standalone | CVS     || No Gnus | CVS   | Date / notes                 |
>> | Gnus vers. | v5-10   ||         | trunk |                              |
>> | beta rel.  |         || devel   |       |                              |
>> |------------|---------||---------|-------|------------------------------|
>> |            | 5.10.8  ||         |       |                              |
>> |            |         || 0.6     |       | 2007-05-01                   |
>> |            | 5.10.8  ||         | 0.7   | today                        |
>> | 5.10.9     |         || 0.9     |       | close to release of Emacs 22 |
>> |            | 5.10.10 ||         | 0.10  |                              |
>> | 5.10.11    |         || 0.11    |       | ?                            |
>> |            | 5.10.12 ||         | 0.12  |                              |
>> | 5.10.13    |         || 0.13    |       |                              |
>> |            | 5.10.13 ||         | 0.14  |                              |
>> `------------------------------------------------------------------------'
>
>         My .02: I've never understood why people like this kind of
> numbering scheme. I find them so confusing and inconsistent (John uses
> odd/even, Jack uses even/odd, you never know which one is what etc).

One of the major points for this discussion was to distinguish CVS
versions and released version.  Now, if a user has "5.10.8" you can't
tell if its from 2006-04-11 or 2007-05-28, i.e. it's unclear which
bugs should already be fixed in this version.  The releases (stable
5.10.x or development No Gnus 0.y) should have a different version
than the CVS snapshots.  And the version comparisons (via
gnus-continuum-version) must still work correctly.

In http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62634 I suggested
to use ...

| Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8+cvs) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux)
| Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4+cvs) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

... or "+20060411" for CVS versions.  But Lars suggested an odd/even
scheme.  I don't have a strong preference for either one, but I'd like
to have a decision soon.

> - <major>.<minor> beta <level> for development branches
> - <major>.<minor>.<patchlevel> for stable branches

Upto now we had/have:

- final = in Emacs = { 5.9, 5.11, 5.13, ... } 

- beta = standalone release = { 5.8.x, 5.10.x, ... }

- development = (prefixed named versions = ) = { Oort Gnus 0.y, No
  Gnus 0.y, ...)

How do you suggest to apply your scheme to these Gnus versions
(i.e. fill the table from my message with your suggested version
numbers)?

Bye, Reiner.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-28 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-22 11:13 Inaccuracy in the documentation Tassilo Horn
2007-03-22 12:04 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-03-23 18:17   ` Version numbers of unreleased stable and development versions (was: Inaccuracy in the documentation) Reiner Steib
2007-05-26  8:21     ` Version numbers of unreleased stable and development versions Reiner Steib
2007-05-28  9:03       ` Didier Verna
2007-05-28 12:57         ` Zlatko Calusic
2007-05-28 17:42         ` Reiner Steib [this message]
2007-05-29  7:21           ` Didier Verna
2007-05-31 19:01             ` Reiner Steib
2007-06-04  9:29               ` Didier Verna
2007-06-13 18:50                 ` Reiner Steib
2007-06-15 17:53                   ` Reiner Steib
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-11 15:59 Reiner Steib
2006-04-11 18:14 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-12  4:33   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-12 22:54     ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-13  5:48       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-13  6:49     ` Romain Francoise

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