From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64695 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Version numbers of unreleased stable and development versions Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 10:21:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87k5x9msyz.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1180167932 27838 80.91.229.12 (26 May 2007 08:25:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Gnus Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13206@lists.math.uh.edu Sat May 26 10:25:31 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hrrab-0005Qc-EX for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 10:25:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrrZg-0005v3-AO; Sat, 26 May 2007 03:24:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrrZc-0005uh-PN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 26 May 2007 03:24:28 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1HrrZb-0006sa-1E for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 26 May 2007 03:24:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1HrrZZ-0003BD-00; Sat, 26 May 2007 10:24:25 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4Q8ONN1015729; Sat, 26 May 2007 10:24:23 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F6B12A4C; Sat, 26 May 2007 10:24:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: .*T0'iU(sujq_j9\J>-d4fg;N/1++U#U$_5ii6k.=|"-n'?5O:Hyz&wi'-!I~,}7~GgT=0S /&-R5sbkNy5+Xo1y{Tw2KKxi@Xh"g@]Qc|.U<*]WDd)qvGowFDvfU1F]{EDho:7P0@|oOD=Bc{K4?> WP68K[Mx:}=`ZT'6g4'f+g?;`vri2!)xGy}3:=l'(/Cea0l4lo^H5#@/Z3ev User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-dcc1-Metrics: arktur 1182; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64695 Archived-At: On Fri, Mar 23 2007, Reiner Steib wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22 2007, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: [ Wrong version numbers in the manuals ] >> So is the Message info. I vote to making them synch to >> `gnus-version', as well as the ones in the Emacs CVS and >> the v5-10 branch. It will make releasing new versions easy. > > Well, the Makefile rules (see "release-bump-version") I've added > before releasing 5.10.8 already do the job automatically. But Lars > didn't seem to have used them for the release of No Gnus v0.5. ... and No Gnus 0.6. ;-) > Another point is, that we started some discussion about a new version > number policy, but IIRC we didn't come to a final conclusion and/or > nobody stepped forward to put into practice. > > ,----[ ] > | Anyway, how about using an odd/even-numbered methodology? The > | odd-numbered ones are in CVS, and when a release is published, it gets > | the next even number. > `---- > > > > ,----[ Lars in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62660 ] | Anyway, how about using an odd/even-numbered methodology? The | odd-numbered ones are in CVS, and when a release is published, it gets | the next even number. `---- As the versions in Emacs (which are supposed to be the stable release versions) have odd numbers (5.9, 5.11), it might be better to do it the other way round: even = CVS (unrelease), odd = release. Thus, we will have the following scheme... In Emacs (final versions of Gnus): Emacs 21: Gnus 5.9 Emacs 22: Gnus 5.11 Emacs 23: Gnus 5.13 ... Releases (beta and devel) from Gnus repository and CVS versions: ,-----------------------------------------------------------------------. | Standalone | CVS || No Gnus | CVS | Date / notes | | Gnus vers. | v5-10 || | trunk | | | beta rel. | || devel | | | |------------|---------||---------|-------|------------------------------| | | 5.10.8 || | | | | | || 0.6 | | 2007-05-01 | | | 5.10.8 || | 0.7 | today | | 5.10.9 | || 0.9 | | close to release of Emacs 22 | | | 5.10.10 || | 0.10 | | | 5.10.11 | || 0.11 | | ? | | | 5.10.12 || | 0.12 | | | 5.10.13 | || 0.13 | | | | | 5.10.13 || | 0.14 | | `------------------------------------------------------------------------' But I don't care too much whether we use odd/even or even/odd (CVS/release) actually, but it would be nice to make a decision soon. I'd volunteer to adjust the release-* rule in Makefile.in accordingly. As the release of Emacs 22.1 seems to get really closer finally (), it would be nice to release a new 5.10.* soon after this. I'd volunteer to prepare the tar-balls etc. Additionally, (as sketched in the table) I'd propose release trunk and v5-10 at the same time (as we did for 5.10.8 and No 0.4) to have the same bug fix level. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/