From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63578 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: backporting bugfixes to the v5-10 branch Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:59:56 +0200 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: <87wtajwzjk.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> <87wta86vzr.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> <878xlh6xmm.fsf@gate450.dyndns.org> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156258364 1764 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2006 14:52:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m12105@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Aug 22 16:52:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFXcP-0005Ms-0o for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:52:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1GFXc2-0002dK-00; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:52:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1GFXVr-0002dC-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:45:55 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.227.211]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GFXVn-0006kH-5p for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:45:55 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1GFXVh-0006eL-00 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:45:45 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GFXVT-00040D-L2 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:45:31 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:45:31 +0200 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:45:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 53 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.;yo.b yq4$p;ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BijTYamw0Zgr9SjSxc8xwRp8snw= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63578 Archived-At: On Tue, Aug 22 2006, Andreas Seltenreich wrote: > Andreas Seltenreich writes: >> Reiner Steib writes: >>> On Wed, Jul 12 2006, Andreas Seltenreich wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not sure what to do with the change to gnus-find-method-for-group: >>>> >>>> * gnus.el (gnus-find-method-for-group): On killed/unknown groups, try >>>> looking up the method using GROUP's prefix before inventing a new one. >>>> It is used on killed/unknown groups in various places where returning >>>> an all-new method isn't expected by the caller. >>>> >>>> While I can reproduce all of the bugs listed in >>>> on a stable Gnus, >>> >>> ... and the fix as well, I guess? >> >> Ack, I was unable to trigger the bugs anymore on v5-10 with the fix >> merged in. > [...] >> Btw, testing with the agent enabled revealed two places where >> g-f-m-f-g is called on groups after their prefix has been stripped, >> causing the native method to be returned. I don't think this is >> intentional, is it? >> >> [backtraces] Is this problem related to your change or not? Could you please summarize this problem again, Cc-ing Kevin Greiner and ask for his advise/opinion. > While I'm very confident that the change to g-f-m-f-g won't cause any > regressions, I do not /know/ that it won't. Especially with respect > to the agent. I don't have time to look at the code, but as the code is installed the trunk since 2006-06-25, it probably is sufficient testing (as the agent is enabled by default) by now to be installed in the trunk as well. > With Emacs pretest approaching, I'm still reluctant to commit it to > v5-10, and unless someone raises a more knowledgeable opinion, I'll > leave it on the trunk. After all, your changes fixed some problems still present in v5-10/Emacs CVS, so I'd say install it in v5-10 now. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/