From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62076 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Huh...? euc-jp...? Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:34:12 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: <87bqwx7pz8.fsf@dod.no> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140731047 7140 80.91.229.2 (23 Feb 2006 21:44:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10604@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 23 22:44:04 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FCOFe-0003PU-Fx for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:43:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FCOFa-0005Lw-00; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:43:50 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FCOEX-0005Lr-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:42:45 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCOER-0008Qr-Rn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:42:45 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FCOEP-0005vI-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:42:37 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FCOEE-000381-Nf for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:42:28 +0100 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.10.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:42:26 +0100 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:42:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 54 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de X-Face: 1;h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB;kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm;%Od On Thu, Feb 23 2006, Steinar Bang wrote: > Platform: Intel Pentium M, ubuntu breezy > GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (i386-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2005-05-03 on rothera, modified by Debian > No Gnus v0.4 (last updated February 2 2006) [...] > This is the paragraph, that might do the same to this posting...? Yes... | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-jp > Still, the switch to Intel is a necessary one from an engineering > standpoint, he said, because Apple needed a way to improve > performance per watt. Mr. Wozniak would have liked Apple to continue > using Motorola processors, but “Intel just did a very good logic > design.” > > I guess the quotes are the culprits, but I still can't see what made > it pick euc-jp? As Emacs 21 cannot do CJK->UTF-8 unification, Emacs is unable to convert the chars to UTF-8. There's nothing Gnus can do about this. In Emacs 22 it works correctly (see `utf-translate-cjk-mode' in the NEWS file): | also known as “The Wizard of Woz,” or even “the other Steve” — made (In Emacs 21 I get literal "\u2014" and "\u201c" here (6 chars each) when pasting from Firefox.) We already discussed similar problems in the German Gnus[1] and general newsreader[2] groups when pasting from man pages. It might occur only with a certain combination of locales and program versions (X server?). All people with this problems were using Debian. I couldn't reproduce this problems on SuSE. This posting will be in utf-8 if `utf-translate-cjk-mode' works correctly. Bye, Reiner. [1] July 2004 in de.comm.software.gnus: http://www.google.de/groups?as_umsgid=v93c3z1ro6.fsf%40marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de&hl=en [2] January 2006 in de.comm.software.newsreader http://www.google.de/groups?as_umsgid=v9u0bvvtnw.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de&hl=en -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/