From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63481 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: 21.5 crash in Gnus Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:47:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1142286252.31896.5.camel@jerrypc.cs.usu.edu> <87mzftjyd2.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <873bhjiqht.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153327987 2517 80.91.229.2 (19 Jul 2006 16:53:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. 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Turnbull's message of "Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:09:50 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-PacNet-SG-Metrics: gemini 1358; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63481 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 15 2006, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib writes: > > Reiner> On Tue, Mar 14 2006, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > >> However, Gnus's I18N misfeatures are legion; > > Reiner> Care to explain? Or give us some URLs or MIDs? Is anyone interested in investigating these problems? > Here are the reasons that bit me this week: > > 1. Something isn't checking for the coding-system `gnus-decoded', > which gets propagated as a buffer-local value (typically the > *Article* buffer) of some coding system variable used by nnmail, > thus making the error essentially permanent until you kill the > buffer. > > 2. In Japanese mail, ASCII gets RFC2231-encoded under at least some > circumstances in references to local files in external bodies. > (All the time for me, but what usually happens is I do > gnus-mime-save-part-and-strip, then change the name from an > ISO-2022-JP-encoded abomination -- Gnus didn't seem to pay > attention to `file-name-coding-system' last I checked -- to an > ASCII name for safety. So Gnus may be "remembering" that this > used to be a name that requires RFC2231, and then does it to ASCII > even though it's unnecessary and stupid.) > > 3. Every time you edit a mail, the RFC2231-encoded parameters get > re-encoded when you save. This is particularly annoying when > somebody sends you a 15-attachment mail. > > 4. The code for viewing MIME parts doesn't seem to grok RFC2231; > clicking on an encoded external body gives a "I can't find any > file with a name that seems to be RFC2231-encoded" error. > > 5. There's no proper way to set the charset parameter when editing a > message. You can set mm-coding-system-priorities locally, at least in Emacs. > 6. Address headers don't get RFC2047-encoded in Japanese mail. (This > is a multiple regression, sometimes it works, sometimes it don't, > lather, rinse, repeat.) > > 7. Gnus doesn't seem to provide a useful way to "wash" mail with a > broken Content-Type header. I haven't actually checked that in a > couple years -- I've had a helper function to do that since 1998, > so it wasn't really worth searching. And I don't recall exactly > what my definition of "useful wash" was, I seem to recall there > was a "view as charset" option but that didn't do what I wanted. > > Gnus version 5.10.7, XEmacs package 1.89. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/