* gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m)
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@ 2006-01-23 11:55 ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-23 13:02 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2006-01-23 11:56 ` gnus tries to run w3m Reiner Steib
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu, ding
Kevin, could you please look into this?
On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote on bugs@gnus.org:
[ Switching back from January 2006 version to November 2005 version ]
> Trying to use gnus in the November version of emacs an error about
> gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview is produced...
>
> Does anyone have any idea what is going on?
I've seen a couple of similar reports recently:
- <news:1137750787.388337.4270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=1137750787.388337.4270%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
- <news:op.s17fl6nfo2upmc@loopback>
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=op.s17fl6nfo2upmc%40loopback
(here's a translation of the German text:)
,----
| My Gnus - User-AgentGnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) -
| aborts with the message above. I didn't change anything in this Emacs
| [configuration].
|
| In the error message it is written what to do, but I don't understand
| it (how to do it).
`----
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
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2006-01-23 11:55 ` gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m) Reiner Steib
@ 2006-01-23 11:56 ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-23 12:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: bugs, ding
On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> Gnus v5.11
> GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit)
>
> When using gnus with the current Emacs CVS it tries to run w3m when
> visiting some messages.
>
> The w3m version that I have in my patch is old (0.3) so it does not
> like the flags passed, so the w3m help message is displayed in the
> article buffer instead of the article content.
> This did not happen with an emacs check out from CVS at the end of
> November.
> I didn't change any settings.
Katsumi Yamaoka changed some w3m related stuff recently. Maybe he has
an idea. [ Copying ding@gnus ]
> Why would gnus try to use html at all? There's a text/plain
> alternative, and I never enabled html in gnus...
This is in the FAQ:
,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ]
| Question 4.6
|
| I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if
| it's available. How to do it?
`----
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
2006-01-23 11:56 ` gnus tries to run w3m Reiner Steib
@ 2006-01-23 12:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2006-01-23 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> In <v9acdn2m5g.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
>> Gnus v5.11
>> GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit)
>>
>> When using gnus with the current Emacs CVS it tries to run w3m when
>> visiting some messages.
>>
>> The w3m version that I have in my patch is old (0.3) so it does not
>> like the flags passed, so the w3m help message is displayed in the
>> article buffer instead of the article content.
>> This did not happen with an emacs check out from CVS at the end of
>> November.
>> I didn't change any settings.
> Katsumi Yamaoka changed some w3m related stuff recently. Maybe he has
> an idea. [ Copying ding@gnus ]
I know that problem, sorry. I'll make an effort to make it work
with old w3m. At any rate, the change I made is required to
display non-ASCII text including Latin-1.
BTW, you can customize the `mm-text-html-renderer' variable to
the value other than `w3m-standalone'.
,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.7]") ]
| Question 4.7
|
| Can I use some other browser than w3 to render my HTML-mails?
`----
>> Why would gnus try to use html at all? There's a text/plain
>> alternative, and I never enabled html in gnus...
> This is in the FAQ:
> ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ]
>| Question 4.6
>|
>| I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if
>| it's available. How to do it?
> `----
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
2006-01-23 11:56 ` gnus tries to run w3m Reiner Steib
2006-01-23 12:21 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2006-01-23 15:08 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> > Why would gnus try to use html at all? There's a text/plain
> > alternative, and I never enabled html in gnus...
>
> This is in the FAQ:
>
> ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ]
> | Question 4.6
> |
> | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if
> | it's available. How to do it?
> `----
The problem is that I use the default value for
mm-discouraged-alternatives (wich is also the value indicated in the
above FAQ entry), so Gnus should not try to render HTML...
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* Re: gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m)
2006-01-23 11:55 ` gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview error (was: gnus tries to run w3m) Reiner Steib
@ 2006-01-23 13:02 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
> Kevin, could you please look into this?
>
> On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote on bugs@gnus.org:
>
> [ Switching back from January 2006 version to November 2005 version ]
> > Trying to use gnus in the November version of emacs an error about
> > gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview is produced...
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea what is going on?
>
More details about the above, the error message seems to be this:
gnus-agent-read-agentview no longer supports version %d. Stop gnus,\
manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview, then
restart gnus.
But how to "manually evaluate gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview" is
not obvious, that function takes one (undocumented) parameter and the
user cannot guess what that parameter might be.
Another thing is that gnus-agent-convert-to-compressed-agentview is
not autoloaded, or loaded by default so for some users would be
difficult to even find the function...
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
2006-01-23 12:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu
@ 2006-01-23 15:08 ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-23 17:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
[...]
> > ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ]
> > | Question 4.6
> > |
> > | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if
> > | it's available. How to do it?
> > `----
>
> The problem is that I use the default value for
> mm-discouraged-alternatives (wich is also the value indicated in the
> above FAQ entry), so Gnus should not try to render HTML...
The default value is nil (see mm-decode.el), but the FAQ entry
suggests to add "text/html" and "text/richtext".
Maybe you misinterpreted the text ``[...] then the value of this
variable should be set to: ("text/html" "text/richtext")'' in the doc
string as the default value?
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
2006-01-23 15:08 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2006-01-23 17:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2006-01-23 18:41 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
>
> > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
> [...]
> > > ,----[ (info "(gnus)[4.6]") ]
> > > | Question 4.6
> > > |
> > > | I'd like Gnus NOT to render HTML-mails but show me the text part if
> > > | it's available. How to do it?
> > > `----
> >
> > The problem is that I use the default value for
> > mm-discouraged-alternatives (wich is also the value indicated in the
> > above FAQ entry), so Gnus should not try to render HTML...
>
> The default value is nil (see mm-decode.el), but the FAQ entry
> suggests to add "text/html" and "text/richtext".
>
> Maybe you misinterpreted the text ``[...] then the value of this
> variable should be set to: ("text/html" "text/richtext")'' in the doc
> string as the default value?
Yep, you are right. I shouldn't have been looking at that so late at
night, sorry...
Is this something new(ish)? I had the impression that by default Gnus
would display by default the text/plain alternative iff a message
contained text/plain and text/html alternatives.
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
2006-01-23 17:52 ` Dan Nicolaescu
@ 2006-01-23 18:41 ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-23 21:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-01-23 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
> Is this something new(ish)? I had the impression that by default Gnus
> would display by default the text/plain alternative iff a message
> contained text/plain and text/html alternatives.
No, there were only documentation additions in 2005. From vc-annotate
(sorry for the long lines):
5.65 (larsi 04-Dec-99): (defcustom mm-discouraged-alternatives nil
5.46 (larsi 04-Jul-99): "List of MIME types that are discouraged when viewing multipart/alternative.
5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): Viewing agents are supposed to view the last possible part of a message,
5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): as that is supposed to be the richest. However, users may prefer other
5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): types instead, and this list says what types are most unwanted. If,
5.77 (fx 27-Apr-00): for instance, text/html parts are very unwanted, and text/richtext are
5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): somewhat unwanted, then the value of this variable should be set
5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99): to:
5.42 (larsi 17-Apr-99):
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): (\"text/html\" \"text/richtext\")
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05):
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): Adding \"image/.*\" might also be useful. Spammers use it as the
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): prefered part of multipart/alternative messages. See also
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): `gnus-buttonized-mime-types', to which adding \"multipart/alternative\"
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): enables you to choose manually one of two types those mails include."
7.33 (yamaoka 12-Dec-05): :type '(repeat regexp) ;; See `mm-preferred-alternative-precedence'.
5.65 (larsi 04-Dec-99): :group 'mime-display)
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: gnus tries to run w3m
2006-01-23 18:41 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2006-01-23 21:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2006-01-23 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 23 2006, Dan Nicolaescu wrote:
>
> > Is this something new(ish)? I had the impression that by default Gnus
> > would display by default the text/plain alternative iff a message
> > contained text/plain and text/html alternatives.
>
> No, there were only documentation additions in 2005. From vc-annotate
> (sorry for the long lines):
>
> 5.65 (larsi 04-Dec-99): (defcustom mm-discouraged-alternatives nil
[snip]
Well, then something else is involved here.
I just tried with Gnus from emacs-21.4 and for that version the
text/plain alternative is shown, for emacs CVS the text/html version
of the same message is shown. For both emacs versions
mm-discouraged-alternatives was not changed from the default.
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