From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66314 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs unicode merge changes to Gnus Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:30:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <61r6fqbyuv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871w7fvymc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203097216 10555 80.91.229.12 (15 Feb 2008 17:40:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:40:16 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14805@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 15 18:40:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQ4Y5-0002XY-S3 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:40:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ4Wl-00010n-TN; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:11 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ4Wk-00010T-9X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:10 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ4Wd-0007W8-HQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:39:10 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JQ4Wd-0002bS-00 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:39:03 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ4WV-0005oJ-Ex for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:38:55 +0000 Original-Received: from p54a9400c.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.169.64.12]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:38:55 +0000 Original-Received: from Reiner.Steib by p54a9400c.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:38:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a9400c.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: P05mdcZT&lL[-s2=mw~RsllZ0zZAb?vdE}.s Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66314 Archived-At: On Fri, Feb 15 2008, Miles Bader wrote: > So, I still don't know what to do about this. Sorry, I didn't have time to look into the coding system issue yet. > [By default, I'll just commit those changes.] I think all changes beside `gnus-ding-file-coding-system' (`mm-universal-coding-system') are clear. I.e. proceed as I suggested in my first reply : - Merge "Add gbk and GB18030" changes - Revert `mm-hack-charsets' removal in Emacs CVS (and don't merge it to Gnus, of course). - `rfc2104-hexstring-to-byte-list': I'm not sure. Unless someone sees a problem now, merge it to Gnus. > Miles Bader writes: >> What about (1) using the coding: cookie, (2) change the coding system >> used to be utf-8 if possible (no binary), and utf-8-emacs otherwise. >> >> That should more or less work correctly except when people have binary >> junk, and that should be very rare (right...?). >> >> I guess it won't work for some other cases, like someone with CJK text >> who switches from Emacs 23 to Emacs 21, but ... Emacs 23 still has `emacs-mule' as coding system. Does it allow to encode everything? If so, we might use `emacs-mule' instead of `utf-8-emacs'. If not, we could recommend setting `mm-auto-save-coding-system' to `emacs-mule' for those who want to use Gnus in Emacs 23 and Emacs 21/22. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/